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Redwic
01-18-2007, 12:41 PM
The latest CHL rankings were released, and the ICE did not make the list. I am not even a regular ICE fan, but I am still totally perplexed by this!
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1 Everett Silvertips (34-7-0-1) 1 16
2 Vancouver Giants (29-9-3-4) 2 16
3 Barrie Colts (31-11-0-1) 3 13
4 Kamloops Blazers (31-11-1-1) 7 9
5 Lewiston MAINEiacs (32-9-1-3) 4 9
6 Medicine Hat Tigers (33-14-2-0) 5 13
7 London Knights (29-10-1-3) 6 16
8 Plymouth Whalers (29-11-1-2) 9 4
9 Kitchener Rangers (28-13-1-2) 8 4
10 Cape Breton Screaming Eagles (30-13-2-0) 10 9
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Kootenay has the SECOND-BEST Overall Record and Winning Percentage in the entire WHL, and the third-most for standings points (and in fairness they only trail Medicine Hat by two points, with four games in-hand).

What's going on?

Tiger9
01-18-2007, 01:07 PM
I agree and I'm a Tigers fan. The ICE also have a streak going of 11-0-1-0...

...Tigers will end that on Sunday though punk rock

Rammer
01-18-2007, 05:23 PM
Take solice in the concept that this power ranking is done from the East, is made to get the CHL in the media leading into the weekend games, and that last time I checked the games that count, are decided on the Ice, and that is what we are all about. nhl3

Spungy
01-18-2007, 06:13 PM
it is strange that we didnt make the list, but as a fellow Ice fan pointed out on another board, the year we won the memorial cup we weren't on the list either :D

fightstrap50
01-18-2007, 06:30 PM
not to mention theres probly no way they will put 5 WHL teams in the top #5 or 6 rankings let along a %50 WHL split in the top ten.

They cant make the west look that dominant dancing pi lol

Chipper
01-19-2007, 05:08 PM
Some people will say that the Ice never get the respect of "press" that other large market teams get but I think that we like it that way and it keeps our motivation going. The boys are not noticed as much as they would be in Van, Calgary etc. I think it keeps their heads on a level field and don't get caught up on thinking about how the papers say how good they are. In my opinion this is where the small market has it over the large and why year in and year out we always have a competitive team. Let them have their rankings, we will see who wins out in the end. GO ICE GO!!!!

Rammer
01-19-2007, 05:31 PM
Some people will say that the Ice never get the respect of "press" that other large market teams get but I think that we like it that way and it keeps our motivation going. The boys are not noticed as much as they would be in Van, Calgary etc. I think it keeps their heads on a level field and don't get caught up on thinking about how the papers say how good they are. In my opinion this is where the small market has it over the large and why year in and year out we always have a competitive team. Let them have their rankings, we will see who wins out in the end. GO ICE GO!!!!

The main reason that the Ice seem to have a competitive team year in and year out, is due to ther fantastic supply of goal tenders that have come throught the system. If you aren't able to stop the puck you aren't going to be i most games and the Ice have been able to keep games close enough in the difficult times and when the offence is clicking, it isn't close.

I do like the small vs large market media comparison, if you are a Hitman reading the papers, the smoke blown up about your play has to push your head into the clouds.

fightstrap50
01-19-2007, 05:52 PM
[QUOTE=Rammer]The main reason that the Ice seem to have a competitive team year in and year out, is due to ther fantastic supply of goal tenders that have come throught the system.

are you serious rammer. you do make some good points and yes we have had some fantastic goalies here but most started off slow and developed well. the exception being Blackburn.


The tallent in both offence and defence we have had here over the years is amazing more so than the great goalies like Glass, Dakers, Blackburn and Boxma.

there was alot of guys that didnt make it here too , tenders like Bridges, Harvey, Kolewaski, Pool, and now Pugh.

So four good goalies versus a host of tallent up front some of which are playing in the NHL today and lots more in the AHL, and ECHL. with a few more destined for the show yet.

Goalies dont make a team, the Roster makes a team and the guys have to gell together to know everyones habbits especially the tenders. yes goalies win you games but not every night when there is only two of you.


dont get me wrong though, I am a goalie fan and am SO glad dakers came back this year as I'm sure a lot of people are. But even he spent his time on the bench and develloped there behind Glass. He is not the same goalie as he was 2 or 3 years ago as his skill and devellopment have really taken form now and is exactly the type of goalie to take you through the playoffs and a possible Cup appearance.

You're doing great Taylor!! keep up the good work out there.

GO ICE GO!!!

scrunt
01-19-2007, 09:25 PM
I must admit I'm surprised the Giants have stayed as high in the rankings as they have. After a very strong first quarter the Giants gave been only slightly better than average, and have lost on a regular basis to the other teams in the top ten list.

I just hope the ranking committee has foresight and knows the Giants will beat the 'Tips in the upconing two games LOL

Rammer
01-20-2007, 12:25 AM
[QUOTE=Rammer]The main reason that the Ice seem to have a competitive team year in and year out, is due to ther fantastic supply of goal tenders that have come throught the system.

are you serious rammer. you do make some good points and yes we have had some fantastic goalies here but most started off slow and developed well. the exception being Blackburn.


The tallent in both offence and defence we have had here over the years is amazing more so than the great goalies like Glass, Dakers, Blackburn and Boxma.

there was alot of guys that didnt make it here too , tenders like Bridges, Harvey, Kolewaski, Pool, and now Pugh.

So four good goalies versus a host of tallent up front some of which are playing in the NHL today and lots more in the AHL, and ECHL. with a few more destined for the show yet.

Goalies dont make a team, the Roster makes a team and the guys have to gell together to know everyones habbits especially the tenders. yes goalies win you games but not every night when there is only two of you.


dont get me wrong though, I am a goalie fan and am SO glad dakers came back this year as I'm sure a lot of people are. But even he spent his time on the bench and develloped there behind Glass. He is not the same goalie as he was 2 or 3 years ago as his skill and devellopment have really taken form now and is exactly the type of goalie to take you through the playoffs and a possible Cup appearance.

You're doing great Taylor!! keep up the good work out there.

GO ICE GO!!!

The goalies run consecutively with the Ice in Cranbrook. Remember that a goalie plays the full 60 minutes while the offensive players run 25 minutes or so a game. The Ice are well coached, and do their job to make the goalies easier, but the goalie position relies much more on raw talent than any other position on the team. Think back to the Memorial Championship and where the Ice would have been without Boxma.

By no means am I dissing the forwards that have moved on, but other than Stoll, none have made a huge impact both on with the Ice and the NHL. That is something that falls into the coaching credit the more that I think about it. I know that you will bring up Svatos, but he wasn't as much an impact with the Ice as he has been with the Av's.

What thinketh you?

fightstrap50
01-20-2007, 01:12 AM
i think Svatos' 41 points in 39 game season, and his 77 points in 53 game seasons place him into the impact player status. Along with Milroy and Dawes ect. I know they dont play 60 minutes but goalies dont get hammered on and battered all night either.

But not one goalie has moved on besides Dan, Granted Glass is with the Baby Sens this season and has a good chance of being in the NHL in a couple years. Dakers, Dakers could just make that jump as well, they are very keen on him in SJ.

I fully agree on the coaching and management staff as well as all the scouts and trainers, ect ect. I dont think we could ask for more in that aspect without getting into the whole marketing thing blah blah blah. They all do a great job.

We have had some excellent goalies through here though havent we? And more coming up like Lieuwan, he looks unreal!

GO ICE GO!!!

Rammer
01-20-2007, 12:49 PM
i think Svatos' 41 points in 39 game season, and his 77 points in 53 game seasons place him into the impact player status. Along with Milroy and Dawes ect. I know they dont play 60 minutes but goalies dont get hammered on and battered all night either.

But not one goalie has moved on besides Dan, Granted Glass is with the Baby Sens this season and has a good chance of being in the NHL in a couple years. Dakers, Dakers could just make that jump as well, they are very keen on him in SJ.

I fully agree on the coaching and management staff as well as all the scouts and trainers, ect ect. I dont think we could ask for more in that aspect without getting into the whole marketing thing blah blah blah. They all do a great job.

We have had some excellent goalies through here though havent we? And more coming up like Lieuwan, he looks unreal!

GO ICE GO!!!

Svatos limited playing time I guess hurt my opinion of him. Totally fogot about Milroys sensational season, where everything seemed to go in for him. But it is a good debate, since the alternative would be to have a debate on how bad the team has been over the past several seasons. :)

Good solid team from top to bottom, and well worthy of always being in contention come playoff time. nhl3

fightstrap50
01-20-2007, 01:22 PM
Svatos limited playing time I guess hurt my opinion of him. Totally fogot about Milroys sensational season, where everything seemed to go in for him. But it is a good debate, since the alternative would be to have a debate on how bad the team has been over the past several seasons. :)

Good solid team from top to bottom, and well worthy of always being in contention come playoff time. nhl3
you got that right Rammer, whats the point arguing over how "good" our team has been eh? They have my utmost respect!

GO ICE GO!!!