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Tipped Off
12-05-2007, 10:36 AM
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20071205/SPORTS/712050028

Silvertips punished for recent sloppy play

Everett coach John Becanic gives his team a stern message in search of consistency and more discipline.

By Nick Patterson
Herald Writer

EVERETT -- After a rough weekend, Everett Silvertips coach John Becanic had a message for his team:

No more Mr. Nice Guy.

In response to a weekend which saw the Tips do little right during a pair of ugly losses, Becanic doled out the consequences, gathering the team Sunday morning for a little extra conditioning.

"We had a little bit of a skate Sunday morning," said Becanic, who was noticably more stern with the players during Tuesday's practice. "We took 21 penalties, so we did 21 bag skates. It wasn't for losing, it was just for being undisciplined. So we had a skate Sunday morning at 9 after getting in late the night before; tried to get my point across that way."

Everett is coming off its worst weekend of the season. The Tips managed a paltry 12 shots on goal in a 2-1 home loss to Seattle on Friday, then were completely outclassed in a 7-0 defeat at Vancouver on Saturday. The seven-goal deficit was the worst in franchise history.

With the Tips having now lost five straight, Becanic decided it was time to get the players' attention.

"We know coach is serious," Everett captain Jonathan Harty said. "No one wants to be skated. Working hard for 60 minutes is way easier than working hard for a couple days straight getting bag skated. It's simple.

"We got our punishment, it could have been way worse," Harty added. "We haven't been playing well and the punishment we got we definitely deserved. We'll take it in stride and try to avoid it (tonight)."

Despite the lackluster effort and the complete absence of offense, it was the penalties that set Becanic off. Everett allowed eight power plays against Seattle and 11 against Vancouver.

Discipline has been a problem beyond just last weekend's games. Everett is the most-penalized team in the league with 626 penalty minutes in 30 games. That's a far cry from the Everett's first three seasons in the league, when the Tips were easily the least-penalized team in the league.

"With penalties there's not much more you can do but be stern," Becanic explained. "We were a really undisciplined team last year and we never seemed to fix it. We tried various methods, and this is just another one of those. Any time you're undisciplined or selfish you have to be stern."

Many of the penalties, at least against Vancouver, stemmed from trying to be too physical. Following Friday's anemic offensive display, Becanic implored his team to be more physical against the Giants in an effort to create more offense. But the results weren't exactly what Becanic was hoping for. Instead of turnovers created, Becanic got Kyle Beach dropping the gloves off the opening faceoff followed by four quick Vancouver power plays. The Giants scored on two of those, and the game was essentially over after the first period.

"The game starts with work ethic," Harty said. "When you stop working you take penalties, and when you take penalties you get tired quicker. One thing leads to another and it snowballs, and Vancouver didn't let up so we didn't have a chance."

While penalties have definitely been a problem for Everett, it's just one of the symptoms of the underlying illness: The Tips have yet to find any consistency this season. Everett started out terrible, losing five of six, then won 10 of the next 12. Since then the Tips have losing streaks of four and five games sandwiched around a three-game winning streak.

"Consistency is the biggest thing we're lacking," Becanic said. "We've beat all the top teams, we've lost to all the top teams. We've lost to the teams at the bottom and we've beaten them.

"For the younger guys the biggest difference is playing consistent on an every night basis, and for the older guys it's the same things," Becanic added. "When you're a go-to guy, you've got to be a go-to guy all the time, not just when you want to."

So has Becanic's message sunk in?

"I think it's pretty simple," Everett center Zach Hamill said. "We've got to compete harder, work harder and play pretty simple. If we stick to our gameplan, finish our hits and finish our scoring chances every game, we should be fine."

Slap shots: Although Everett defenseman Dane Crowley was not suspended for his hit Saturday that knocked Vancouver's Michal Repik unconscious, Becanic was not thinking about the possible repercussions to Crowley: "His suspension one way or the other was irrelevant to me personally because of the injury. It was a good hit and it's unfortunate Repik got injured. As a parent you first and foremost want to make sure the kid's all right, because it's just a game." ... Everett forwards Beach and Dan Gendur, who were held out of the third period against Vancouver because of lingering effects from injuries, are expected

old_time_hockey
12-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Becanic should make them ride the bus in full gear after a game

Tipped Off
12-07-2007, 08:16 PM
.....That's an old, worn out joke. I'm sure you could come up with something more original than that! This year's Tips give you plenty of ammunition.

old_time_hockey
12-08-2007, 07:47 PM
The point being that it seems he is trying to turn into KC v2.0 playing the drill sgt. roll since being a softer style coach than they are used to didn't work. And perhaps that is what this core of players needs.

Tipped Off
12-08-2007, 08:03 PM
....Well, you're not watching very much Tips hockey if you think he's turning into KC 2.0...cuz the Tips are playing nothing like in previous seasons....in style or mentality.

The fact is, there a lot of things the Tips are doing wrong this year. You could pick on many of them. I like the conversation. I'm one of the few Tips friends who are critical of the team no matter what, so Ilike talking about that with other people who have different perspectives. But, the same, worn out jokes don't accomplish anything and are boring.

old_time_hockey
12-08-2007, 11:32 PM
It wasn't a joke. If you can't see that, so be it. The fact is after the Tips had to ride the bus in wet gear, they really turned things around last season. I still think it is a bone head thing to do and he is bloody lucky that no one got a staph infection, but the results are evidant.

He is going to the harsh side which makes him like Constantine. If he had the same team that KC had, then we could compare. Until then it is apples and oranges. Either that or Meuller was the team...which I doubt. However, 1 week of it won't turn a hockey team around. It will take time to really see what the outcome is of this new style from the coach.

I think Tips fans can single out Irving. He isn't playing behind a KC trap. He is seeing more shots and I don't think he can handle it. He is going to Canada's WJHC tryout, but I think just out of respect for being on the bench last year. I think we all know that Bernier is going to be the starter. If for some reason Mason is eliminated from the running, given performace so far, Sexy gets the backup job over Irving.

Tipped Off
12-08-2007, 11:42 PM
I bet every team, at least once a season, skates hard for punishment. We just have people here who make a big deal out of it. As for the Staph infection...I agree it was a stupid thing to do, but again, it's been done thousands of times before. He wasn't the first & won't be the last. KC was teh right guy for this team in year one and two. When an enderstaffed team needed to play that style to win. It was time for him to move on and I was one of the fans hoping they picked someone out side the organization who carried a completely different philospohy. I actually like the AMS style of play the best. The pester the power play up front and use speed to take advantage of the opponent. To me it seems the refs have gone back to an older style of calling the game, though. That hurts teams liek the Americans who built a speedy lineup to take advantage of the "new" rules.

TwoBits
12-08-2007, 11:59 PM
old_time_hockey
It wasn't a joke. If you can't see that, so be it. The fact is after the Tips had to ride the bus in wet gear, they really turned things around last season. I still think it is a bone head thing to do and he is bloody lucky that no one got a staph infection, but the results are evidant.

He is going to the harsh side which makes him like Constantine. If he had the same team that KC had, then we could compare. Until then it is apples and oranges. Either that or Meuller was the team...which I doubt. However, 1 week of it won't turn a hockey team around. It will take time to really see what the outcome is of this new style from the coach.

I think Tips fans can single out Irving. He isn't playing behind a KC trap. He is seeing more shots and I don't think he can handle it. He is going to Canada's WJHC tryout, but I think just out of respect for being on the bench last year. I think we all know that Bernier is going to be the starter. If for some reason Mason is eliminated from the running, given performace so far, Sexy gets the backup job over Irving.

Didn't you watch the ADT Challenge?

old_time_hockey
12-09-2007, 12:56 AM
old_time_hockey

Didn't you watch the ADT Challenge?
Anyone can have a bad game on any night.

Who has a Memorial Cup ring? Who is 2nd in WHL goalie stats this year and 1st last year? Who is closing in on a WHL shutout record?

But really this is getting off topic.

TwoBits
12-09-2007, 12:03 PM
I guess the stats don't lie. But they do tell some half truthes. I just think Irving has faced more rubber and can handle the stress better.

ihlemic10
12-17-2007, 10:31 AM
I guess the stats don't lie. But they do tell some half truthes. I just think Irving has faced more rubber and can handle the stress better.

Personally I think Irving has been off since last year's world juniors. Hopefully not making the team this year gets him fired up.

TwoBits
12-17-2007, 12:29 PM
I guess the point is mute now that neither goalie made the cut. The point I was trying to make is, I don't think Sexsmith has really been challenged or faced any adversity in his entire WHL career. (The Vancouver fans can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) He has always had a good team playing in front of him which makes his job easier and his stats GREAT. But when you look closer at the SO stats and see the number of shots he faced in the entire game is what most goalies face in a period, it makes you wonder how he would fare playing behind some of the bottom teams in the league.

old_time_hockey
12-17-2007, 12:34 PM
^Well look at the Giants last game against Chilliwack. Shots were low, but the chances were quality including 2 breakaways. He made many nice glove saves and wasn't giving anything up as far as rebounds go.

Actually, in games where he sees more work, he gets better. But in games where he gets less than 20 shots often times the other team will get a sleeper past him where he might not have been as on the ball due to boredom.

TwoBits
12-17-2007, 12:50 PM
Relax old-time, I'm not saying Sexsmith is a bad goalie. :laugh:

We all know a better part of their game is mental and I wonder how much stress your guy has faced that's all. It's a whole lot less stressful when you know your team is going to come to play every night and not leave you hanging out to dry on a nightly basis. (And don't tell me that going to the Memorial Cup was high stress, he had the comfort of that same team playing in front of him.) Usually when the team struggles, the goalie struggles. When the team struggles (a lot) and the goalie doesn't struggle, it makes you sit back and go, hmmmmm? This guy is a well rounded goalie. Do you think Sexsmith has been tested in this capacity?

Tipped Off
12-17-2007, 01:12 PM
....Iring actually hasn't played that bad since the first couple weeks of the season. I bet his numbers are pretty good if you take the first 5 or 6 games out.

old_time_hockey
12-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Relax old-time, I'm not saying Sexsmith is a bad goalie. :laugh:

We all know a better part of their game is mental and I wonder how much stress your guy has faced that's all. It's a whole lot less stressful when you know your team is going to come to play every night and not leave you hanging out to dry on a nightly basis. (And don't tell me that going to the Memorial Cup was high stress, he had the comfort of that same team playing in front of him.) Usually when the team struggles, the goalie struggles. When the team struggles (a lot) and the goalie doesn't struggle, it makes you sit back and go, hmmmmm? This guy is a well rounded goalie. Do you think Sexsmith has been tested in this capacity?

I know. I'm not steamed up. Just giving you an example.

I believe that Sexy has shown that when the chips are down, you can count on him. He has never had to carry a team (ie Luongo) because of the D that the Giants have. But when asked to give his team a chance to win last year when the Giants went on a bit of a stretch of struggling to score and players away with the WJHC, he answered that. Many 1 goal games they lost where if it hadn't been for Tyson the score would have been much worse.

It's hard to say either way until he is put in a position where he would be facing over 35 shots every night.