raiders release cedegren

[westbeach55]

Prince Albert, Saskatchewan – The Prince Albert Raiders have completed a roster move today, releasing 19 year-old right winger Fredrik Cedergren. Cedergren will return to his hometown of Rosenberg, Sweden this weekend and is expected to play in the Swedish Elite League.
Cedergren was the Raiders selection in the 2009 CHL European Draft, 26th overall. This season Cedergren appeared in 31 games with the Raiders scoring 1 goal and 5 assists.
The move reduces the Raiders roster to 23 players: 2 goaltenders, 8 defencemen and 13 forwards.
Friday night the Raiders play their final home game before Christmas entertaining the Saskatoon Blades at 7:00 PM. It is Northern Lights Casino night with all fans 19 and over having a chance to win autographed and framed NHL jerseys of Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Saku Koivu. Tickets are available on line at www.raiderhockey.com or by calling 764-GAME.

[Dwight Schrute]

is voracek still on our protected list ?

[ZAMBONI-PHONEY]

With an open Euro spot on the Raiders' roster, any possibility of them going after
Luca Sbisa? Maybe in exchange for a mid round draft pick and one of the 92's on defense?

:groovy:

NOTE TO GOALTENDERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR STICK ON THE GOAL LINE WHEN YOU HEAD TO THE BENCH!

[Dwight Schrute]

With an open Euro spot on the Raiders' roster, any possibility of them going after
Luca Sbisa? Maybe in exchange for a mid round draft pick and one of the 92's on defense?

:groovy:

NOTE TO GOALTENDERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR STICK ON THE GOAL LINE WHEN YOU HEAD TO THE BENCH!

sbisa might be out of our league, but it be nice to see him here

[Arthur Fonzerelli]

sbisa might be out of our league, but it be nice to see him here

Why would he be out of PA's league, Lethbridge will take the best offer available if they move him.

[Dwight Schrute]

Why would he be out of PA's league, Lethbridge will take the best offer available if they move him.

in the division that includes saskatoon, brandon, and now with regina adding more firepower it makes it a lot tougher to give up the future then it would for one of them.
but like anything else it all depends on the cost

[Razz]

With an open Euro spot on the Raiders' roster, any possibility of them going after
Luca Sbisa? Maybe in exchange for a mid round draft pick and one of the 92's on defense?

:groovy:

NOTE TO GOALTENDERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR STICK ON THE GOAL LINE WHEN YOU HEAD TO THE BENCH!

Sbisa would be a great add to any team , especially the Raiders.
Is he worth 1/2 a season in PA ?

[Razz]

With an open Euro spot on the Raiders' roster, any possibility of them going after
Luca Sbisa? Maybe in exchange for a mid round draft pick and one of the 92's on defense?

:groovy:

NOTE TO GOALTENDERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR STICK ON THE GOAL LINE WHEN YOU HEAD TO THE BENCH!
So what are they going to do with Revenko next year? Keep him as a 20 yr old and an import? He will take up 2 spots, hate to say but trade him now. They should have kept Stanford because Zemlak is done this year. Flette is 20 next yr and no current playing time, he takes the goalie spot and a 20 yr old spot. Hickmott/Rowley should each have one of those positions which leaves N0 spot. There's a handful more guys on the roster yet. Unfortunately lack of younger player development will catch up to Campese and the Raiders. Hey you guys need a manager ? pfft Sbisa doesn't fit the plans. If the Raiders trade some younger guys away now then Campese needs to be taken out behind the shed. They are in a tough situation, but their younger forwards look good. Their younger defense would too if he played them more.

[Razz]

your obviously just a stat watcher if you think Hickmott and Rowley are the Raiders top 2 19 year olds this year. Deck is by far our best 19 year old. So far I would keep Deck, Rowly and Reddin.

Obviously you don't understand.

I don't look at stats, I look at player's abilities/styles which also pertain to team chemistry. From what you just mentioned tells me a lot about you. "You don't understand" probably for obvious reasons. You never spent the time behind or above the bench and actually LOGICALLY studied the game at AND away from the rink have you. Sorry if my 47 years of direct team affiliation are too outspoken. If you think he is the best 19 yr old you have, then respond to this also. "Button is better "and younger so what you are saying doesn't say much about PA's 19 yr olds. Shame on you for saying so.

Good luck

[Dwight Schrute]

rowley and deck are locks, with the other spot up for grabs between hickmott and reddin (although id bet on bruno bringing in a overage goalie again, since we have no ready starter).
deck is by far the best dman we have, button really struggled but has improved. we will get 2 new euros, who will probably be mediocre. as we dont have the $ to bribe top end guys

[Razz]

Button is better then Deck ? Everybody that reads this please explain to the 47 year old vet that watches the Raiders so much he knows what is going on who is better out of the 2 and which 19 year old is a lock to be a 20 year old next year.
Sure hope your not going by stats now. Button is more of a complete player

[EOK1]

Button was pretty one-dimensional prior to this season. I think Button's offensive production has been affected by the Bruins possibly asking him to do different things with his game.

Deck is pretty sound defensively and he has a solid offensive game too. I don't know if it's because of his size, but he's not that physical. With Button, I think last year all he did was rush the puck and more than twice a game he would be caught out of position. I think defensively Button is average with nothing overly spectacular over other guys around the league. At times Button looked like a defenseman really wanting to be a forward. He has probably the best skating abilities I've seen a Raider have in many years and right now I think he's trying to round out his game. He does need to ass some physicality to his game to complete it.

Deck is more complete, but they both play different styles. Deck will be a Raider for his 20-year old season unless he decides to jump to the University ranks or gets a pro contract in the ECHL or something.

[Razz]

wow

Sure hope your not going by stats now. Button is more of a complete player. As for a 20 yr old spot on the club Deck doesn't make the top 3, especially when you have a 20 yr old import (Revenko) and a goalie (Flette) who will most likely return . Plus Hickmott and Rowley will come before Deck. I think Deck will be traded or released.

[Razz]

Button was pretty one-dimensional prior to this season. I think Button's offensive production has been affected by the Bruins possibly asking him to do different things with his game.

Deck is pretty sound defensively and he has a solid offensive game too. I don't know if it's because of his size, but he's not that physical. With Button, I think last year all he did was rush the puck and more than twice a game he would be caught out of position. I think defensively Button is average with nothing overly spectacular over other guys around the league. At times Button looked like a defenseman really wanting to be a forward. He has probably the best skating abilities I've seen a Raider have in many years and right now I think he's trying to round out his game. He does need to ass some physicality to his game to complete it.

Deck is more complete, but they both play different styles. Deck will be a Raider for his 20-year old season unless he decides to jump to the University ranks or gets a pro contract in the ECHL or something.

I agree with some of your facts. Deck however I don't believe is a sound D-man in his own end as he looks lost out there. Button is run and gun but does have the ability to get back like you say. He needs to be coached in his own end which is lacking. You can't change the type of game that got that player here in the 1st place, you can however work on they're weakness to round them out. Like asking an offensive player to be fighter example. But I think it's happening in PA. Maybe every game I seen Deck was an off night for him.

[Dwight Schrute]

Sure hope your not going by stats now. Button is more of a complete player. As for a 20 yr old spot on the club Deck doesn't make the top 3, especially when you have a 20 yr old import (Revenko) and a goalie (Flette) who will most likely return . Plus Hickmott and Rowley will come before Deck. I think Deck will be traded or released.

deck is hands down the #1 defenseman on the raiders. button gets caught out of position, none of the big 3 on d are physical. deck is always in the right spot
geez make a poll and see

[lordstanley]

I fi had to rank the dmen for the raiders i would say Deck 1 Button 2 Rowley 3 then it gets weak

[Dwight Schrute]

I fi had to rank the dmen for the raiders i would say Deck 1 Button 2 Rowley 3 then it gets weak

none of ruopp hyrnyk aasman yaworski get much icetime

[lordstanley]

Then thats a coaching problem even good teams like the Blades play Siemens and Thrower in all key situations

[Dwight Schrute]

Then thats a coaching problem even good teams like the Blades play Siemens and Thrower in all key situations

well we have too many bodies.... thanks to giving the blades the best goalie in the east division this season,and having 3 guys eating up a ton of minutes doesnt help, even though they deserve the time. i figured a move might have been made by now

[westbeach55]

wouldn't call the blades a good team yet they havn't won nothing yet, hopefully they can do something this playoffs as they tend to choke big time in the playoffs other years




Then thats a coaching problem even good teams like the Blades play Siemens and Thrower in all key situations

[lordstanley]

I agree with you the Blades havent won anything yet and it gets very fusterating but they don't seem to have the coaching problem as campese teams do

[westbeach55]

what coaching problems we are in third place considering we were to pegged as dead last in the whl. we havnt played good hockey like this in years. its kinda funny its hard to find away to bash bruno seems to be doing the right things for the club

[Dwight Schrute]

what coaching problems we are in third place considering we were to pegged as dead last in the whl. we havnt played good hockey like this in years. its kinda funny its hard to find away to bash bruno seems to be doing the right things for the club

this is coming from the guy who thinks deck is lost in his own end and that flette, revenko and rowley will be the 20's next year. personally my only questions are how the kids will get icetime and develop. with cedergren gone, it gives more icetime for macneill and for aschim. and it also free's us up import options

[westbeach55]

everyone though the raiders were going to be in trouble this year but wow seven players with over 30 points at least three lines that can put the puck in the net and a one of the top goalies in the league i guess we should look at all the negatives and bring back donn clark for another 8 years of losing. since bruno has came in we have a hard working team, that is well conditioned like never before (players are held accountable) he's also brought in some staff with knowledge in different areas of the game to help him and has been travelling recruiting players himself. revenko prob will be playing pro next year and who wouldnt want one of the top scoring euros on there team there is no rule you have to carry to euros just wondering what team you support




So what are they going to do with Revenko next year? Keep him as a 20 yr old and an import? He will take up 2 spots, hate to say but trade him now. They should have kept Stanford because Zemlak is done this year. Flette is 20 next yr and no current playing time, he takes the goalie spot and a 20 yr old spot. Hickmott/Rowley should each have one of those positions which leaves N0 spot. There's a handful more guys on the roster yet. Unfortunately lack of younger player development will catch up to Campese and the Raiders. Hey you guys need a manager ? pfft Sbisa doesn't fit the plans. If the Raiders trade some younger guys away now then Campese needs to be taken out behind the shed. They are in a tough situation, but their younger forwards look good. Their younger defense would too if he played them more.

[westbeach55]

47 years of direct experience you must be looking for a job thats why you're on here bashing bruno I would like to know more about this direct team affiliation




Obviously you don't understand.

I don't look at stats, I look at player's abilities/styles which also pertain to team chemistry. From what you just mentioned tells me a lot about you. "You don't understand" probably for obvious reasons. You never spent the time behind or above the bench and actually LOGICALLY studied the game at AND away from the rink have you. Sorry if my 47 years of direct team affiliation are too outspoken. If you think he is the best 19 yr old you have, then respond to this also. "Button is better "and younger so what you are saying doesn't say much about PA's 19 yr olds. Shame on you for saying so.

Good luck

[SaskHockeyFan]

I would agree with Deck being the #1. I am actually of the opinion ( don't jump all over me it's only my opinion) that there is a big drop from #1 -#2. In the WHL, Nathan Deck is a far better d-man than Ryan Button. Button cuts in front of the net on the rush, joins the rush every time he can and hence gets caught out of position lots. While Deck will join the rush he seems to be better in tune with when to do it and when to stay home. Now I realize Button was drafted and he may turn out to be better a few years down the road but right now Deck is the best D-man the Raiders have. I would agree that none of the top 3 are physical at all but that trait seems to be less of a factor these days than it used to be, and I dislike that. I enjoyed the old game. Now, with the dump and chase and no obstruction, I am not sure why any players would even want to play D. What, so they can get run through the boards at least once a year. It has become a lot harder to play D. Why do you think everyone in the league is searching for quality D-men.

[Dwight Schrute]

http://gdrinnan.blogspot.com/



Tomas Voracek was showing all the signs of being an impact defenceman for the Prince Albert Raiders in 2007-08 when he returned home to the Czech Republic because his mother was ill. Voracek, now 19, is with the Czech national junior team that will play in the World Junior Championship and the Raiders plan on checking him out. “I don’t know where it’s going to go, but we’re certainly going to chat with him to see if there’s some interest in him joining our team after the world juniors,” Bruno Campese, the Raiders’ GM and head coach, told John MacNeil of the Prince Albert Daily Herald. “But he’s playing over in (the Czech Republic) right now. He’s got a pro contract, so there’s lot of things (to consider). First of all, he’s got to want to come, and then you have to deal with him getting out of his contract, as well. He’s a guy that was with us, so we know what he can do, and there’s some comfort with that. But, in the same token, we feel it’s a little bit of a longshot, but it’s a longshot that we’re willing to take right now.” . . . Voracek’s mother died last week. . . . The Raiders have room for an import on their roster, as they dropped Swedish F Fredrik Cedergren last week.

[domino]

Bruno is all class ,his mother died last week and all Bruno can think about is getting this kid back over here.Bruno is coaching for this year to keep his job, he is not developing his young d men and should move one of them. I heard from a few scouts Tigers , Tri City and Swift that Bruno is asking for the farm for Aasman. This I dont get as he obviously doesnt have the talent(according to Bruno) to play top 4 minutes now or in the future but you want top dollar for him. Now before you say we are in 3rd place and playing well, we sure are but Brunos handling of young players is horrible

[lordstanley]

I agree with Domino if Voracek was ready to come back he or his agent would let Campese know in no way shape or form should Campese be at the World Juniors talking to Voracek he is in a Major tourney and his Mom just passed away for god sakes.

[Dwight Schrute]

it would be offensive not to ask or make a offer to voracek

[westbeach55]

he's just talking to voracek and probably going to watch some of the tournament games (perhaps with family) I guess it doesn't matter what he does he is always wrong I guess if you have some issues maybe try emailing bruno im sure he would be glad to email you back. we need people to support the raiders ive been going to games since i was a little toddler and seen some coaches and gm's that I didn't like but still supported the team and will continue

since bruno has been here our team is in top physical condition (look at how many injurys this year i believe this is due to the physical condiioning)

I believe the scouting has also improved alot with bruno actually traveling himself and 50 player list been updated on regular basis

third place right now, pegged to be dead last

some hard decisions on playing time and who is in and out of lineup but good problem to have

can't argue about the home record need to find abit more consistency on road

best hockey in ahc in years

[tuffguy]

scouting better? Cause Bruno says so? Cedergren is an example of how scouting is better. Liked O'Brien's Euro's allot more.

[bigjimmer]

Some you on this board should really give your head a shake. Bruno is continuing to build this program to where it needs to be but the naysayers continue to critisize.

I love the comment about Bruno not having class, last year Vorcek was sent home as soon as his Mother became ill and now the coaching staff are doing their job in seeing what his interests are....if they didn't you fools would be all over the guy because he didn't check in to see if Vorcek would return.

I have seen followed this team through it all, and for once things are looking up, but too many in this town expect to win a championship over night. Many in this town are a joke to call themselves "hockey fans".
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[westbeach55]

couldn't agree more







Some you on this board should really give your head a shake. Bruno is continuing to build this program to where it needs to be but the naysayers continue to critisize.

I love the comment about Bruno not having class, last year Vorcek was sent home as soon as his Mother became ill and now the coaching staff are doing their job in seeing what his interests are....if they didn't you fools would be all over the guy because he didn't check in to see if Vorcek would return.

I have seen followed this team through it all, and for once things are looking up, but too many in this town expect to win a championship over night. Many in this town are a joke to call themselves "hockey fans".