Mathematically still possible.....but

[Raider Believer]

:( The bad news is that any combination of wins in Swift Current's favor and losses to PA totalling three will eliminate the Raiders from playoff contention.
The math doesn't look good :clown: and is even worse with Moose Jaw who has a game in hand over us. Yuk!

[tuffguy]

I know I am going to contradict myself here....but here it goes. He has played the old guys / top two lines top 3 d so much this year, to some degree he should continue to do so, and here is why.

While the team is all but out of the playoffs, he can monitor the old guys (19 y.o.) and figure out who he wants to work with next year. See who gives a damn and plays hard. Whoever doesn't, show them the door. (This is considering Bruno is re-signed)

And he owes it to Cameron, Warg, Revenko, and especially Zemlak to try and showcase them one or two more times to the NHL and AHL scouts. He had all year to play young guys in any and all situations. I'm sure they can all wait til next as they have waited this long anyways.

I think it speaks volumes that the team floundered the last three years the last two months of the year. Last year and this year the team was in the upper middle of the pack of the conference in Nov/Dec/ or Jan. Then they just go away. I havemy theories, but will spare you the broken record

[SaskHockeyFan]

Sorry, can't agree with sitting the 20 year olds. They have all worked hard in this league for years and given them everything they had every night. That's how you want to thank Zemlak by sitting him in 4 of his last 5 games in the WHL? I know you want to toss away this year but there is still some hockey to be played and I think the 20 year old's deserve to play it. McNeil will have plenty of time to play yet. It's too late to give Deck and Rowley time off, they will have all summer for that now.

[Raider Believer]

No point in changing horses now. Also, it wouldn't be too classy to sit the 20 yo guys. This season is just about done. Some tough decisions with regards to the non productive 91s will have to be made before next season. Let's hope that 'dub ready' guys/prospects will report.

[EOK1]

I'd consider sitting Campese for the rest of the season. That guy's tenure as Head Coach is done. "whatever it takes" to miss the playoffs again.

[Wildeyes]

lol

[SaskHockeyFan]

EOK1, now that I agree with. I actually saw Bruno at the liquor store the other day. I was there picking up some medicine for the wife. I asked him if he was picking up a bottle to celebrate the season and he said he was there picking up empty boxes. Wonder what he meant?

[reims]

EOK1, now that I agree with. I actually saw Bruno at the liquor store the other day. I was there picking up some medicine for the wife. I asked him if he was picking up a bottle to celebrate the season and he said he was there picking up empty boxes. Wonder what he meant?

empty boxes so he can clear out his office...lol

[EOK1]

Empty boxes to fill up with the bull**** he fed to Raider fans 2 years ago.

[Raider Believer]

empty boxes so he can clear out his office...lol

I'm not convinced that changing the HC/GM is the answer. The team needs some continuity and consistency. Bruno hasn't been here long enough to have the younger prospects and kids in the system show what they can do.
If you go to the KIJHL website you'll see that the two PA prospects playing with the Chase Chiefs are doing what they do best. Both playing at close to a point per game and last game BOTH got tossed for fighting :scrapitup:. Hmmm... sure would be nice to have that kind of passion up here. Talked to my buddy in Revelstoke and he said that the Danyluk kid was up playing with Chase also.....and IHHO didn't look very good, smallish, soft on puck, not close to ready for dub duty, so that was a little disappointing. IMHO the real test is whether Bruno will bounce :bounce::bounce: his largely underachieving 18 year olds in the offseason. They are killing this team. The middle of the order has to be way better than that.

[EOK1]

I'm not convinced that changing the HC/GM is the answer. The team needs some continuity and consistency. Bruno hasn't been here long enough to have the younger prospects and kids in the system show what they can do.
If you go to the KIJHL website you'll see that the two PA prospects playing with the Chase Chiefs are doing what they do best. Both playing at close to a point per game and last game BOTH got tossed for fighting :scrapitup:. Hmmm... sure would be nice to have that kind of passion up here. Talked to my buddy in Revelstoke and he said that the Danyluk kid was up playing with Chase also.....and IHHO didn't look very good, smallish, soft on puck, not close to ready for dub duty, so that was a little disappointing. IMHO the real test is whether Bruno will bounce :bounce::bounce: his largely underachieving 18 year olds in the offseason. They are killing this team. The middle of the order has to be way better than that.

Maybe Campese is just more suited for GM duties, whereas Young has the better of the experience at this level. When they were hiring, I thought that Dean Brockman would be a better candidate than Campese, maybe even Beatty in La Ronge.

[Allin44]

What happened to you guys? 2 weeks ago it looked like you'd battle.

[EOK1]

Hopefully they miss the playoffs.

[XCHEKR]

EOK1......what about your OIL KINGS???

[XCHEKR]

I think after the game tonight reims...you better give it a second thought before saying too much!!! I would be worried about my own team if I was you!!!

[EOK1]

EOK1......what about your OIL KINGS???

Oh, I'm just a fan that has missed 5 games all season (home and away) and who has no control over player movement, personnel or anything pertaining to the Oil Kings. We're not a good team by any means and it's tough being a fan, but I still am. We made the playoffs last year, but out of all the teams in the WHL, I despise the Raiders and Hitmen the most.

[reims]

I think after the game tonight reims...you better give it a second thought before saying too much!!! I would be worried about my own team if I was you!!!

they loose 5-3 to brandon and i should be worried???...give your head a shake buddy...brandon is a good hockey team...they usually beat us there and we beat them at cuc, its gonna come down to who has home ice is my feelings...we are deep, and i have no worries at this point, for many years to come, unlike the raiders who have no future, and thin in depth

[bigjimmer]

Let's remember, this team wasn't picked to make the playoffs and they are still in the battle for a spot.

Change isn't the answer, Campese is brining in some young talent that will most likely work out (looking at their junior progress so far), I don't always agree with the playing times of all of the player's, but, what would the fans say if he played all four lines and lost and didn't make a push for the playoffs?

Many of the fans in PA want a quick fix, it doesn't work in junior hockey! This guy has brought a lot of good to the Raiders and is on the right track. The drafting has improved greatly (amazing that O'brien hasn't been picked up by anonye yet.....everyone else knows he's a joke), fitness and nutrition have improved greatly, and the team's physical play is impressive to watch.

I would take Campese over Anholt and Clarke any day, whether or not he should coach, I'm not sure, but as far as GM I am liking what the future could bring for the Raiders. Fans in PA are finally being treated to a team that appears to have a long term plan, for those of us who have followed this team through it all can't say we have seen that in a long time.

Good luck in the final few days Raiders, the loyal true hockey fans are behind you!
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[Wildeyes]

Cheers

[westbeach55]

then why come on the raiders forum and post stuff when you know there are alot of frustrated raider fans, what's the point, i despise the wheatkings but im not all over the wheatkings board. you are entitled to your opinions




Oh, I'm just a fan that has missed 5 games all season (home and away) and who has no control over player movement, personnel or anything pertaining to the Oil Kings. We're not a good team by any means and it's tough being a fan, but I still am. We made the playoffs last year, but out of all the teams in the WHL, I despise the Raiders and Hitmen the most.

[westbeach55]

the blades have built up some good prospects and have a good young team but before you come on and say the raiders have no future lets see if the blades can make it through the first round. we have lots of depth in our future the blades are just ahead of us when trading setoghouchi we should have unloaded chipchura

2002-03 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 40 27 5 0 0 85.00 0.590 234 205 1668 Kevin Dickie Lost in round 1
2003-04 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 7 52 11 2 0 27.00 0.188 140 279 1885 Kevin Dickie Out of Playoffs
2004-05 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 37 23 6 6 0 86.00 0.597 234 215 1798 Lorne Molleken Lost in round 1
2005-06 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 41 25 0 2 4 88.00 0.611 232 217 1426 Lorne Molleken Lost in round 2
2006-07 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 27 41 0 2 2 58.00 0.403 174 231 1503 Lorne Molleken Out of Playoffs
2007-08 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 29 34 0 3 6 67.00 0.465 182 229 1539 Lorne Molleken Out of Playoffs
2008-09 Saskatoon Blades WHL East 72 49 18 0 3 2 103.00 0.715 283 195 1314 Lost in round 1






they loose 5-3 to brandon and i should be worried???...give your head a shake buddy...brandon is a good hockey team...they usually beat us there and we beat them at cuc, its gonna come down to who has home ice is my feelings...we are deep, and i have no worries at this point, for many years to come, unlike the raiders who have no future, and thin in depth

[lordstanley]

the blades have built up some good prospects and have a good young team but before you come on and say the raiders have no future lets see if the blades can make it through the first round. we have lots of depth in our future the blades are just ahead of us when trading setoghouchi we should have unloaded chipchura

2002-03 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 40 27 5 0 0 85.00 0.590 234 205 1668 Kevin Dickie Lost in round 1
2003-04 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 7 52 11 2 0 27.00 0.188 140 279 1885 Kevin Dickie Out of Playoffs
2004-05 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 37 23 6 6 0 86.00 0.597 234 215 1798 Lorne Molleken Lost in round 1
2005-06 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 41 25 0 2 4 88.00 0.611 232 217 1426 Lorne Molleken Lost in round 2
2006-07 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 27 41 0 2 2 58.00 0.403 174 231 1503 Lorne Molleken Out of Playoffs
2007-08 Saskatoon Blades WHL Eastern 72 29 34 0 3 6 67.00 0.465 182 229 1539 Lorne Molleken Out of Playoffs
2008-09 Saskatoon Blades WHL East 72 49 18 0 3 2 103.00 0.715 283 195 1314 Lost in round 1
You forgot one though
2009-2010 Saskatoon Blades WHL East 72 49 16 0 3 4 103.00 0.715 260 215 1314 WHL TITLE

[XCHEKR]

they loose 5-3 to brandon and i should be worried???...give your head a shake buddy...brandon is a good hockey team...they usually beat us there and we beat them at cuc, its gonna come down to who has home ice is my feelings...we are deep, and i have no worries at this point, for many years to come, unlike the raiders who have no future, and thin in depth
reims.....you would almost think your blades team is going to win it all!!! Stop and look at the past before you say anymore! It has been pointed out to you how many times??? I wouldn't go on any teams forum to shoot my mouth off unless I knew I was going to be right on top when all is said and done and who knows that??? You would think that there is never been a team that could beat the blades...get real!!! McCrimmon and his team will be right on your back and these so called teams that have no future as you say....have they never beat your blades??? I for the life of me can not understand how you and EKO1 and whoever can come on this forum and bad mouth teams on their own teams forums?!? Great to add to them but keep it interesting and stop being so petty!!!

[westbeach55]

you can have your TITAL





You forgot one though
2009-2010 Saskatoon Blades WHL East 72 49 16 0 3 4 103.00 0.715 260 215 1314 WHL TITAL

[EOK1]

you are entitled to your opinions

Exactly, so don't worry about it.

[XCHEKR]

Agree.....bigjimmer!! I find it so humorous to think every year they put out these predictions !!!
I do like alot of what I see....this team we have now definitely has taken a totally different outlook on fitness and nutrition and I'm sure that is initially because of Campese, so for people to go on and on about him should maybe take a look at the positives he has brought to this team! Another thing, I would like to know what coach plays all four lines all the time. Is that just another reason to complain about Campese for some out there...I believe so!
Whatever the case...I have really enjoyed going to the games because of a team with a whole lot better attitude! Go hard BOYS!

[lordstanley]

you can have your TITAL

Well i will make sure i hit your one and only busy casino street in P.A with our title in hand :clap:

[wango tango]

when doing a statistical comparison, eliminate the highest number and the lowest number.

doing that for the raiders and blades and you see why a lot of the shine has come off of the rivalry. both teams most recent history is filled with no playoffs, or a first round exit (if you eliminate one highest, and one lowest number from each team).

sports is what have you done for me lately. in prince albert it appears the team will miss the playoffs for the third year in a row. in saskatoon the team has now had back to back excellent regular seasons, followers are skeptical it will be anything more than a first round exit.

looking at both teams rosters and prospects suggests: saskatoon will be competitive or above average for a number of years, while in prince albert the franchise is slowly returning to competitive and quite possibly could miss the playoffs for a fourth straight season next year.

unfortunately fans in both cities have very little to thump their chests about. i'd like to see a return of both teams to the top of the standings, and the rivalries stakes getting a lot higher.

[tuffguy]

Let's remember, this team wasn't picked to make the playoffs and they are still in the battle for a spot.

Change isn't the answer, Campese is brining in some young talent that will most likely work out (looking at their junior progress so far), I don't always agree with the playing times of all of the player's, but, what would the fans say if he played all four lines and lost and didn't make a push for the playoffs?

Many of the fans in PA want a quick fix, it doesn't work in junior hockey! This guy has brought a lot of good to the Raiders and is on the right track. The drafting has improved greatly (amazing that O'brien hasn't been picked up by anonye yet.....everyone else knows he's a joke), fitness and nutrition have improved greatly, and the team's physical play is impressive to watch.

I would take Campese over Anholt and Clarke any day, whether or not he should coach, I'm not sure, but as far as GM I am liking what the future could bring for the Raiders. Fans in PA are finally being treated to a team that appears to have a long term plan, for those of us who have followed this team through it all can't say we have seen that in a long time.

Good luck in the final few days Raiders, the loyal true hockey fans are behind you!


The drafting has improved. You contradict yourself. O'Brien drafted those guys you are talking about. Campese and his T2 experience of buying players and getting players out of Jr B had nothing to do with it.

I know you are busy chatting up your buddy so you won't do this, but I would encourage people on the board to ask other WHL personnel who is more respected. Campese or Clark. Campese or Anholt. Campese or O'Brien. Three of those four names were run out of town. Right wrong or otherwise. You will be shocked when you get your answer though. And when you do, and if you get some frank and honest answers you won't want Campese here anymore.

The only long term plan I see is an unwillingness to play and develop young players,and inevitably trade propects and picks for older players that can't or won't get it done. To me, other than lack of development the most glaring weakness in the organization is what looks to be lack of a long term plan. The number of players and staff that have left, and currently want out is somewhat alarming. This was never the case prior o Campese being here.

At the end of the day, in Junior hockey you are graded on three things. Winning, development of players, and making money. Unfortunately for Bruno he is coming up short on all fronts. Even Donn Clark and Pete Anholt had this team in the black and got to game 7 of a Conf final. I know people were turned off of Clark, and that his relationship with Anholt went South and affected the way the team was coached and managed. There had to be change. Putting Campese in a job with two hats, when it is doubtful he could even do one job effectively (based on his background and performance here) was and is a glaring error on theboards part. They have a chance to fix that mistake now. Their decision in the next weeks and months is crucial to how this will go for the franchise.

All I say is get a few facts before forming opinions on here.

[westbeach55]

Agree 100 % we should be fine next year alot of teams are losing alot of players this year







when doing a statistical comparison, eliminate the highest number and the lowest number.

doing that for the raiders and blades and you see why a lot of the shine has come off of the rivalry. both teams most recent history is filled with no playoffs, or a first round exit (if you eliminate one highest, and one lowest number from each team).

sports is what have you done for me lately. in prince albert it appears the team will miss the playoffs for the third year in a row. in saskatoon the team has now had back to back excellent regular seasons, followers are skeptical it will be anything more than a first round exit.

looking at both teams rosters and prospects suggests: saskatoon will be competitive or above average for a number of years, while in prince albert the franchise is slowly returning to competitive and quite possibly could miss the playoffs for a fourth straight season next year.

unfortunately fans in both cities have very little to thump their chests about. i'd like to see a return of both teams to the top of the standings, and the rivalries stakes getting a lot higher.

[westbeach55]

o'brien also drafted alot of players who didnt turn out (one example palazzo) a change was needed he was in there too long. not going to sit here and trash him he did also bring in some good ones. it just kinda wonder cause all your posts are about bruno this and bruno that nothing ever positive about the team. and what staff or players have left cause of bruno would like to see some proof and so what if a couple players have a grief with bruno letting them go (its a business) and i hope this isnt over penner lets move on. have you asked other whl personnel those questions.




QUOTE=tuffguy;148503]The drafting has improved. You contradict yourself. O'Brien drafted those guys you are talking about. Campese and his T2 experience of buying players and getting players out of Jr B had nothing to do with it.

I know you are busy chatting up your buddy so you won't do this, but I would encourage people on the board to ask other WHL personnel who is more respected. Campese or Clark. Campese or Anholt. Campese or O'Brien. Three of those four names were run out of town. Right wrong or otherwise. You will be shocked when you get your answer though. And when you do, and if you get some frank and honest answers you won't want Campese here anymore.

The only long term plan I see is an unwillingness to play and develop young players,and inevitably trade propects and picks for older players that can't or won't get it done. To me, other than lack of development the most glaring weakness in the organization is what looks to be lack of a long term plan. The number of players and staff that have left, and currently want out is somewhat alarming. This was never the case prior o Campese being here.

At the end of the day, in Junior hockey you are graded on three things. Winning, development of players, and making money. Unfortunately for Bruno he is coming up short on all fronts. Even Donn Clark and Pete Anholt had this team in the black and got to game 7 of a Conf final. I know people were turned off of Clark, and that his relationship with Anholt went South and affected the way the team was coached and managed. There had to be change. Putting Campese in a job with two hats, when it is doubtful he could even do one job effectively (based on his background and performance here) was and is a glaring error on theboards part. They have a chance to fix that mistake now. Their decision in the next weeks and months is crucial to how this will go for the franchise.

All I say is get a few facts before forming opinions on here.[/QUOTE]

[XCHEKR]

The drafting has improved. You contradict yourself. O'Brien drafted those guys you are talking about. Campese and his T2 experience of buying players and getting players out of Jr B had nothing to do with it.

I know you are busy chatting up your buddy so you won't do this, but I would encourage people on the board to ask other WHL personnel who is more respected. Campese or Clark. Campese or Anholt. Campese or O'Brien. Three of those four names were run out of town. Right wrong or otherwise. You will be shocked when you get your answer though. And when you do, and if you get some frank and honest answers you won't want Campese here anymore.

The only long term plan I see is an unwillingness to play and develop young players,and inevitably trade propects and picks for older players that can't or won't get it done. To me, other than lack of development the most glaring weakness in the organization is what looks to be lack of a long term plan. The number of players and staff that have left, and currently want out is somewhat alarming. This was never the case prior o Campese being here.

At the end of the day, in Junior hockey you are graded on three things. Winning, development of players, and making money. Unfortunately for Bruno he is coming up short on all fronts. Even Donn Clark and Pete Anholt had this team in the black and got to game 7 of a Conf final. I know people were turned off of Clark, and that his relationship with Anholt went South and affected the way the team was coached and managed. There had to be change. Putting Campese in a job with two hats, when it is doubtful he could even do one job effectively (based on his background and performance here) was and is a glaring error on theboards part. They have a chance to fix that mistake now. Their decision in the next weeks and months is crucial to how this will go for the franchise.

All I say is get a few facts before forming opinions on here.

Beginning.....to sound a lot like Gord from Alta.....Bruno this and Bruno that! Why are you so worried about the Prince Albert Raider Team....sounds like you have it in for Campese???!!!???

[Wildeyes]

Lets just face it tuffguy is a GOD when it comes to Hockey IN PA he knows Everything. He is a true Raiders supporter he has the season tickets to show it right?

tuffguy I don't think I have heard a answer to the problems oh yes I have it was never should of gotten rid of O'Brien because he was going to turn the team around after how many years as head scout even with different coaches.
Second of all never should of hired Bruno because there was so many coaches out there that would come to PA. Even tho Bruno was an assistant with the hitman.

Bruno did change the culture of Raiders club. PA was not known for the hockey but a place for players to party. so many times after the games we would find them in the LB or the bars partying after they just got blown out of the water. That is not the case anymore. Players that are here want to play hockey and be here. If they dont they get moved. Dont get mad with Bruno for trading some players like aasman maybe he wanted a change. With the family stuff.
The Raiders have always recycled coaches we bring in a new one and people jump on him.

If we want to attract better players we need to start supporting our team and not rip them apart.

Have a good one

[Raider Believer]

Well said Wildeyes!

[bigjimmer]

Right on Wildeyes,

So many people in this town are feeling the sameway. This hockey club is heading in the right direction with this new regime, to create a new cultre takes time, but we are starting to truly see Campese's stamp on this team. Good things will come for this club.
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[Chipchura_Fan]

If we want to attract better players we need to start supporting our team and not rip them apart.

EXACTLY! I couldn't agree more with the statement above. I met Jonathan Parker the week after he was traded here. The thing that really hit me was the question he asked me after I told him I was a season ticket holder. He asked me "So where are all the fans? How come we don't have very many fans?"

I don't know, I just think that it makes it hard to attract attention of decent players when these guys realize there is really not a whole lot of fan support. Anywhere you go and mention the Raiders someone always pipes up "Raider Suck!" or they just laugh about it. This was my first year as a season ticket holder and I'll continue to buy season tickets as long as I'm living in PA. In the end, it's entertainment either way, win or lose. I just wish people would get out and support the team so new players don't feel like crap coming somewhere with a small fan base.

Sarah

[SaskHockeyFan]

Wildeyes, I agree with what you are saying with a few issues though. Campese was fired by the Hitmen after they lost out in the first round in the playoffs. You make it sound like we are lucky to have him because after all he was with the Hitmen organization. Obviously he wasn't capable of being an asst coach there but two years later somehow he is capable of being both head coach and GM of the Raiders. I still say the organization was and is wrong to have him as coach and GM.
BigJimmer, what exactly is Bruno's stamp on the team? Whether you agree with other posters or not, there has been a disproportionate number of players who wanted out for one reason or another. The simple fact that they aren't in the bar after a loss is hardly enough. He has been here now his third year ( second full year as GM) and again the Raiders are poised to miss the playoffs. Just how long do the fans owe him a job before he brings success to the Raiders, two more years? At which time they make another change and "rebuild" yet again?
I support the players and cheer hard for them but I can't sit back and say Bruno is doing a good job leave him alone while he completes his work. He's had long enough. As well, even if Aasman asked for a change due to family circumstances, why would he have sent him to the US?
Sorry for the rambling post.

[bigjimmer]

Saskhockeyfan, you make some sound points.

To answer your question, I feel his "stamp" on the team is one pointing this club in the direction of many other succesful clubs. For years while watching Clarke and Anholt handle this team I always felt the Raiders were not comparable in the way things were being run. I have been fortunate to watch a lot of CHL hockey over the past decade and talk to many hockey people and hear how things were being run in other organizations (WHL & OHL mainly). For the first time, I feel PA is finally catching up to other clubs in terms of recruitment, staffing, nutrition, discipline, fitness, video, teaching, community involvment, education, billeting, summer development and off-ice conditioning.

Again, this is just my opionion, would I like to see on ice success improve? Of course! But, I still believe that this club was heading in the wrong direction for so many years that unfortunatly it is going to take time to get things on track. I feel the Raiders are in the right direction, although many think another change is reuqired, and I would feel that is a step back in time. I like what is going on and hope it continues with minimal changes.
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[SaskHockeyFan]

Bigjimmer, I would agree that the Raiders were behind in a lot of the areas you mentioned and have recently been upgraded. I guess my point would be, be responsible for those things and let someone else coach then. I have said since the very beginning it is too big a job these days for any 1 person to handle. The best run clubs, in my opinion, don't have a GM who is the coach anymore. There is just simply too much to do, too little time and too much $$ at risk to let one person do it all. Unless you are Kelly McCrimmon and only answer to yourself and have been in the league for many years. Bruno is being put in the position of having to do all of this with little to no experience even coaching in the WHL.

[reims]

Bigjimmer, I would agree that the Raiders were behind in a lot of the areas you mentioned and have recently been upgraded. I guess my point would be, be responsible for those things and let someone else coach then. I have said since the very beginning it is too big a job these days for any 1 person to handle. The best run clubs, in my opinion, don't have a GM who is the coach anymore. There is just simply too much to do, too little time and too much $$ at risk to let one person do it all. Unless you are Kelly McCrimmon and only answer to yourself and have been in the league for many years. Bruno is being put in the position of having to do all of this with little to no experience even coaching in the WHL.

i agree, he does have a lot on his plate for his experience

[XCHEKR]

Wildeyes, I agree with what you are saying with a few issues though. Campese was fired by the Hitmen after they lost out in the first round in the playoffs. You make it sound like we are lucky to have him because after all he was with the Hitmen organization. Obviously he wasn't capable of being an asst coach there but two years later somehow he is capable of being both head coach and GM of the Raiders. I still say the organization was and is wrong to have him as coach and GM.
BigJimmer, what exactly is Bruno's stamp on the team? Whether you agree with other posters or not, there has been a disproportionate number of players who wanted out for one reason or another. The simple fact that they aren't in the bar after a loss is hardly enough. He has been here now his third year ( second full year as GM) and again the Raiders are poised to miss the playoffs. Just how long do the fans owe him a job before he brings success to the Raiders, two more years? At which time they make another change and "rebuild" yet again?
I support the players and cheer hard for them but I can't sit back and say Bruno is doing a good job leave him alone while he completes his work. He's had long enough. As well, even if Aasman asked for a change due to family circumstances, why would he have sent him to the US?
Sorry for the rambling post.

You say Campese was fired by the Hitmen....do you have a problem with Steve Young I have to ask??? Sometimes things don't work out for coaching staff ... I don't think that should be the end for them. They learn things along the way ...they go on and coach somewhere else and do a fine job. Has that never happened before? It is the same for the players from what I have seen around the league. Years ago, a player would jump at a chance to play in the WHL... way different now, thats for sure!
I don't know why anyone would feel that hanging out in the bars is a trivial thing...They are here to play hockey!!! Not hang out in bars, casinos or ? I feel we are lucky to have got a turnaround as much as we have, so far in that area alone...considering the fact it has been spiraling downwards for how many years??? I think that is why there are positive remarks made about the direction this team is going! I also feel the same! I'm not in favor whatsoever of showing Campese the road...He has shown progress! I think we can all agree we would like to be somewhere at the top of the standings....I feel with as much progress as they have shown, it's coming. The team needs stability in the meantime and I feel showing Campese the road is not the answer!

[SaskHockeyFan]

XCHEKR, my point is that he was relieved of his duties as an asst coach of a WHL team. He went to the BCHL for two years and he learned enough there to somehow qualify him to be coach and GM of a WHL team, I personally don't think so. Now, obviously, enough members of the board of directors don't agree with me and hey that's OK.
Cleaning up the casino problem could have been done in one fell swoop in 1 day. Anyone caught in the casino from now on is going to be sent home. DONE. He just didn't have the balls to do it to Bernhardt and MacDonald when he got there because they were two of his star players. Without them the Raiders get no goals. It's easy after those players graduated to enforce the rules. If he wanted to look like he was in control from the beginning he should have stepped on Bernie and Mick right away. I hardly think that him solving the casino issue after two years is enough to keep him around. On ice performance has not improved. We are still not in the playoffs. Is this not a hockey team? Are the players not here to win games? Are the fans not coming to see a winning team? Is it not his job to provide success on the ice as well? I said before, his first job as GM should have been to fire the coach. PS, I have no problem with Steve Young as I have said before, he should be the coach.

[Dwight Schrute]

as far as the casino goes....... if they wanna go spend their $ then let them. they only get so much. and the casino issue was dealt with moreso when he sent gauthier off for a bag of pucks in a very unclassy way after 4 years of service.
fact is recruiting is no better, we cant land a high class euro, we dont hit, have no grit. nobody feels sore after they play pa anymore. all the rivalries are dead. if there is a better option then bruno that should be explored. but really who would want to come ? manson sure did a great job with the D when he was here...... and for some reason doesnt wanna do anything with the raiders anymore.
beggers cant be choosers, and pa pretty much has to beg to have anyone join them

[Dwight Schrute]

No high class Euros want to come here? No high class Euros want to go anywhere but Vancouver or Calgary these days. I would suggest we have one of the best in the league in Ravenko.

true, but marcel ulehla over guys like roman psurny and lauris darzins in 04
peter cmorej over jannik hansen, frolik, alex edler, kudelka in 05
in 2006 with pick #11 we took zeliska over yannick weber, juraj simek, neuvirth, at the end we took milan jurik to grind on the 4th line (cmorej was drafted again).
voracek would have been a great pick.
in 2008 we got hickmott for our pick (thomas kundratek) but igor was a steal later.
in 2009 cedergren

before that we had guys like sivek, kraft, aki, pohanka, polak, menhart
i just find the imports not exciting and a piss off since the good ones avoid us. thankfully revenko has had a good year (last year wasnt so good)

[reims]

just looking at the remaining games you guys have against what swift current has, and you guys actually control your own fate...the biggest game of the year will be wedsday against the broncos...a win and 2 out 0f 3 wins against brandon or stoon,.....and if you look at swift current schedule they play you guys and a home and home with moose jaw (which im betting they split)....it really comes down to the game in hand that you guys have right now...it needs to be a win...setting up a tie break game with you guys and swift...i say kudos to the guys for not giving up and giving yourselves this opportunity...i dunno why im hoping for the raiders as im a blades fan, but would like them squeeking in...with zemlak in goal you never know maybe a first round upset in the making! (except if its my blades)...lol

[tuffguy]

not giving up, or everyone we are chasing is playing as poorly as the Raiders. The team is 4 w and 9 L in last 13. Not exactly a big push. .500during that span gets the team in.

You can't talk about the Raider Euro's and compare them to Euros in OHL and the Q. The other leagues pay the players and the agents to come play. Voracek and Revenko were ver good. The Raiders have done as well as most team in the WHL historically.

The Raiders under Vallette were rumored to bend the rules abit regarding the Euro's. He was in trouble with the league a few times over that.

Ulehla and Cedergren were brutal. Cmorejactually did well in the Q the year after he was in PA.

[Razz]

Maybe Campese should stick to Gm. When I seen them play in Calgary, Lethbridge, Med Hat ,Red Deer ands Swift this year, I honestly can say i have not seen any sort of structured or successful attack. When they played the Tigers in Feb. not once the whole game when it was 5on5 did they sustain one shift offensively. Sometimes their d-man pairings are questionable also. Their are some good coaches in Midget/bantam or ex pros that are ready to step in. New blood helps, but let Campese build another year and see where they go.

[peatfan]

What "high class Euro" has played for the Hitmen? We have one this year, Fisenko who we acquired in the off-season from Vanc and he certainly isn't "high class". Last year we had one Golicic was played good for 2 years plus we picked up Karpov as a throw-in on the Broda trade. Actually over the years the Hitmen have drafted poorly in the Euro draft. With the obvious exception of Brendl & Sjostrom. So I guess we had 2 high class Euro in 15 years. Not a great record. We did have some good serviable players like Petersson, Figren, Pushkarov along with Golicic but mostly we had Cjetkovsky, Uleschenko, Vrbata (not the NHL'er but his kid brother) etc.

[In The Crease]

Now the math is easy. Was in Regina last night and son took me to the game.
It was great. No defence. Then it was brutal. I would not wish either team the agonies they are going through, from the kids, to the young men and the 20 year olds. Moreso, management, staff, coaches, scouts, bus drivers, trainers are all great people and they are suffering all of the "arrows of outrageous fortune". Curtis Hunt looks ten years older than when I last saw him about four years ago. They gotta love what they do. Too bad some of us
cannot see what they are trying not to go through.

[lordstanley]

Now the math is easy. Was in Regina last night and son took me to the game.
It was great. No defence. Then it was brutal. I would not wish either team the agonies they are going through, from the kids, to the young men and the 20 year olds. Moreso, management, staff, coaches, scouts, bus drivers, trainers are all great people and they are suffering all of the "arrows of outrageous fortune". Curtis Hunt looks ten years older than when I last saw him about four years ago. They gotta love what they do. Too bad some of us
cannot see what they are trying not to go through.

Little help for us Blades fans would be nice go raiders !

[Raider Believer]

Right on Wildeyes,

So many people in this town are feeling the sameway. This hockey club is heading in the right direction with this new regime, to create a new cultre takes time, but we are starting to truly see Campese's stamp on this team. Good things will come for this club.

:cool: SC & PA continue what is almost macabre posturing, neither team deserving of elimination or a playoff spot. In an ironic twist, it will be Bruno's gain if he doesn't make it to the dance. He can then jettison his non productive 91s without feeling so much as a second of guilt. I believe Bruno's stamp will be fully felt when you hear the sound of plugs being washed down the drain. One also has to wonder what the trade value might be for Ryan Harrison??? IMHO he just hasn't lived up to the promise of being a community leader, a team leader or offence force. :hmmm:

[In The Crease]

Raider Believer and anyone else who thinks Ryan Harrison is not a bona fide lst line centre on a mediocre team next year, oh, just forget it. Dunh!!!!!!!!!!

[Raider Believer]

Raider Believer and anyone else who thinks Ryan Harrison is not a bona fide lst line centre on a mediocre team next year, oh, just forget it. Dunh!!!!!!!!!!

:eek: The issue isn't whether he's a bonafide 1st line centre next year. The issue is whether his value next year might best be realized by trading him at the deadline and getting a couple of bonofide youngsters and a 1st rounder. Ryan will not be around when this team is ready to contend for the Memorial Cup. And maybe being only a bonafide 1st line centre on a mediocre team is not enough. Would he be that in Calgary or Vancouver?? Probably not. So why is that good enough here?

[Raider Believer]

Raiderfan,
;) With all due respect I disagree with you. I think Ryan will be drafted this June. I think he will play his last year here in PA as a 19 year old and then he will be playing in the AHL to accelerate his development for whatever NHL team drafts him (he would have completed the required 4 years at the dub level as required by agreement with the NHL). His greatest value for return will be at the deadline next year because he will still have a year left to offer his new team. PA will not be taking a run at the Memorial Cup until McNeil, Yaworski, Ruopp and the rest of the the 93's are 19 and the 94's are 18; these seem to be the age groups that have the most potential with the Chase boys, Winther, Waselynko, maybe Danyluk & Sutton . The 91's on this team are not terrific and Ryan is the only bonafide asset that can bring us something to make our future even more promising. I also think we need to have more community leaders on the team, guys who will take it upon themselves to immerse themselves in the community and become the face of the team. Just my thoughts.

[Raider Believer]

so why wouldnt you talk about trading Herrod ? hes by far our most valuable forward.

:) Because I like Herrod way better and understand he brings more positives to the table, more intangibles.

[tuffguy]

Raider believer, it doesn't matter how many smiley faces you post, you are not believable:D

Herrod and Harrison will both be on the team for two more years. No reason to think of trading either for a year and a half.

[Raider Believer]

tuffguy,
I guess only time will tell. As for believable. A little like the pot calling the kettle black dude! I will say one thing though. At least you are consistant.

[Raider Believer]

and hes older and wont be around for the 5 year rebuild that you speak of?

Raiderfan, please reference where I have spoken of a 5 year rebuild?
In fact the only timetable I have made reference to is my speculated projection that the team will be ready to take a run at the Memorial Cup in 3 years.

On the other hand. You have spoken of a 5 year rebuild. And I quote:

"this team does not have 5 more years here to rebuild and ryan will probably be here until hes 20 . The guys you want to deal are the superstars who leave early like the Schenns Glennies who wont be around when they are 20."

tuffguy take note: no smiley faces

[Raider Believer]

you said you wanted to trade Harrison for younger players and a first round pick. And logical thinking would be that the year the Raiders would be making a run for it would be when the 2 first round picks were 19 which would be... 5 years from now. I hear what your saying though I just dont think its even considerable to trade away a player when we are finally going to get money for a player getting drafted. Not to mention hes our hardest working forward almost every night

I'm talking 3 years from now, when guys like McNeil and his age group are 18 How much of a consideration is it for the team to get money for the player for developing him. Who gets the money? The team who owns him when he is drafted? Or is it the team who owns him when he makes the jump to the show? Also, couldn't the money consideration be negotiated between the 2 dub teams making the deal? Most players go from WHL to minor leagues then to NHL, if they make the jump.

[Dwight Schrute]

The team that has the drafted player gets the money. So say if we would have traded Button at the deadline to say Brandon and then we didnt have any players get drafted this year we wouldnt have any developmental cash comming in next year.

i wonder if a team get development money for a signed but undrafted prospect
like radeke or josh gorges.

[Razz]

This team went backwards as the season progressed. IMHO no structure. Oh by the way "Leadership starts behind the bench, it comes from guidance".

[EOK1]

Raiderfan15, grow a pair.

[Dwight Schrute]

Raiderfan15, grow a pair.

well thats insightfull

[Raider Believer]

This team went backwards as the season progressed. IMHO no structure. Oh by the way "Leadership starts behind the bench, it comes from guidance".

Honestly, this team just didn't have the horses, especially in the middle of the order. It wouldn't have mattered who coached them. This team has a glaring deficiency in the 91 age group. Time to make room for younger blood. And even though it is probably hereasy to say so, our tending was only average in the must games the last 20 games of the season.

[Dwight Schrute]

Honestly, this team just didn't have the horses, especially in the middle of the order. It wouldn't have mattered who coached them. This team has a glaring deficiency in the 91 age group. Time to make room for younger blood. And even though it is probably hereasy to say so, our tending was only average in the must games the last 20 games of the season.

kochin, taylor, reddin what are they besides warm bodies ? herle plays his role well, skates hits grinds and drops the mitts (everything you want from a 4th liner). maylan and hickmott arent strong enough. cameron and harrison have grit but with nothing close to a powerforward (well except herrod) nobody parking in front of the net, and nobody going to the tough areas ....... those are glaring deficiencies
next year deck and rowley are the locks for the 20's and id try to entice igor to stay as the 3rd 20
id look at moving button for a quality 92/93 forward.
biggest need is grit

[Raider Believer]

kochin, taylor, reddin what are they besides warm bodies ? herle plays his role well, skates hits grinds and drops the mitts (everything you want from a 4th liner). maylan and hickmott arent strong enough. cameron and harrison have grit but with nothing close to a powerforward (well except herrod) nobody parking in front of the net, and nobody going to the tough areas ....... those are glaring deficiencies
next year deck and rowley are the locks for the 20's and id try to entice igor to stay as the 3rd 20
id look at moving button for a quality 92/93 forward.
biggest need is grit

Just a quick calculation ... it looks like there will be 6 or more new Raider forwards next season.

[lordstanley]

Just a quick calculation ... it looks like there will be 6 or more new Raider forwards next season.

Expect a very very young Blades lineup this weekend Lorne said so after yesterdays postgame show i would hope you guys do the same it would be a nice glimpse of the future if so

[XCHEKR]

RAZZZ...who really are you and why do you have it in for Campese so bad ? ! ? ! ? ! Makes a person wonder! Sounds like the GORD fr Alta. that used to post comments about Campese on a consistent basis in the Herald? Could that be? I would suggest try to focus on the team somewhat but I think everyone gets the idea you have no interest there! Its only getting on Campese's case, right???

[XCHEKR]

Raiderfan15, grow a pair.

It would be nice to see a little maturity shown by you if you are going to comment on here!! Oh, thats right ! I suppose that would be too much to ask for since you were the poster that made the comment " I hate the Raiders" & whatever other team. Troll somewhere else! Maybe figure out how your Oil Kings are going to make it into playoffs next year or even have a team!

[Wildeyes]

EOK1 just really wants to talk to someone he is a lonely person. He is the only one that posts on the kings board.

But EOK if you really want to stay on the board I would suggest that taking shots like that stop NOW. ok Or stay on the oil kings board and talk to yourself

[EOK1]

EOK1 just really wants to talk to someone he is a lonely person. He is the only one that posts on the kings board.

But EOK if you really want to stay on the board I would suggest that taking shots like that stop NOW. ok Or stay on the oil kings board and talk to yourself

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/funny-pictures-cat-insults-your-life.jpg

[Wildeyes]

???? you like cats well good for you. you should share that with your oil king buddies

[Raider Believer]

???? you like cats well good for you. you should share that with your oil king buddies

Or maybe he's just telling us that he's a ***** :D

[Wildeyes]

LOL

[lordstanley]

not a whole bunch about hockey but made my day...

Cole Penner is finally back and playing. The former 4th overall bantam pick is playing with the Camrose Kodiaks. So far in 17 games, Cole Penner has 7-6-13 and a whopping 152 PIMS!