SUSPENSIONS FROM GAME #2

[BladesFan_2010]

How is this possible? I just looked at the WHL site, and this is what it lists under discipline:

Josh Cowen Red Deer Tbd for charge major and g.m. at Saskatoon on March 21.
Saskatoon $500.00 for second multiple fight of season versus Red Deer on March 21
Sena Acolatse Saskatoon Tbd for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.
Darian Dziurzynski Saskatoon Tbd for one man fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.
Randy McNaught Saskatoon Tbd for instigator, fight and g.m., and repeat offender versus Red Deer on March 21.
Duncan Siemens Saskatoon Tbd for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.
Lorne Molleken Saskatoon Fine and suspension tbd for g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

Sorry, but this is BULLS*IT
Yeah, I can understand McNaught getting something because he's listed as a repeat offender. Molleken, I figure a fine and maybe a game suspension, but that's it. But what the hell is this with Acolatse, Dziurzynski and Siemens being listed? Are they getting suspended too? Usually on the website when teams are fined for having multiple fights on the season, no individual players are listed. If anything, why not suspend the Red Deer coach. That ignorant fool said it was a clean play, and that he wasn't trying to take out Stanford. What a crock of you know what.

Wallin should be suspended for stupidity, and Cowen should be gone for a few games, otherwise he will get his ass kicked the rest of the series. How in the hell is it possible that those other guys who were part of the fight get possibly suspended? I hope that isn't the case, but from the way it reads on the website, it sure looks that way.

[peatfan]

If you get an instigator penalty in the last 5 minutes you get the suspension. So the genius coach sends out his goons in the last minute to start the fights and all got the insigator penalth and subsequent suspension. And the great Mollekan gets it for being DUMB. Yeah I'd be peed off if I was a Blades fan but at their coach. You could've got even first shift in game 3 with no consequences. You just gave the Rebels some energy.

[BladesFan_2010]

Sorry, but the Rebels don't have any momentum. They will still get their asses kicked.

[Trav]

Maybe Gogol should have an accident and run over Kuemper lol "Oh, sorry I wasn't tryin to hit him" lol. Pretty sad for a playoff team to be shutout twice.

And to think the league didn't suspend Myers last year for a lot worse lol. The WHL head office is a joke.

[peatfan]

Agree about the Myers incident from last year. Seems any optional suspension is a real hit & miss and even some automatic suspension isn't auto if your name is Don Hay and your team is Vanc Giants. Maybe the Blades should see is they can amend the penalties like the Giants did?

[lordstanley]

Maybe Gogol should have an accident and run over Kuemper lol "Oh, sorry I wasn't tryin to hit him" lol. Pretty sad for a playoff team to be shutout twice.

And to think the league didn't suspend Myers last year for a lot worse lol. The WHL head office is a joke.

I agree the Rebels have no momentum once so ever weres still a mad team after we won were after blood and nothing will get in our way The rebels don't stand a chance to win more than 1 game in this series

[Link Dog]

Anybody got video of the scraps? Nothing on hockeyfights for some reason.

[RDRebelsfan]

I love everyone's cocky attitude in this thread.

2 wrongs do not make a right.

Cowen should be suspended, absolutely, what he did was wrong, you're damn right!

But to try and sugar coat Molleken sending out his "PP" unit like it's some act of bravery, and honor is a ****ing joke!

You go after the man in question which is Cowen, you don't send out your goon squad in an ill fated attempt at vigilante justice.

[Scruffy]

The first I saw Molleken was as an asst. coach to Paddy Ginnell with the Swift Current Indians of the SJHL. Ginnell basically ran one scoring line and three goon lines to make room for them. I'm not sure Molleken has progressed beyond that strategy.

[rebel]

03/22/10 Josh Cowen Red Deer Four games for charge major and g.m. at Saskatoon on March 21.

03/22/10 Red Deer $250.00 for warm-up violation at Saskatoon on March 21

03/22/10 Saskatoon $250.00 for warm-up violation versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Saskatoon $500.00 for second multiple fight of season versus Red Deer on March 21

03/22/10 Saskatoon $3,500.00 for actions of Club versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Randy McNaught Saskatoon Five games for instigator, fight and g.m., and repeat offender versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Lorne Molleken Saskatoon Four games for g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Sena Acolatse Saskatoon Three games for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Darian Dziurzynski Saskatoon Three games for one man fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Duncan Siemens Saskatoon Three games for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

[lordstanley]

03/22/10 Josh Cowen Red Deer Four games for charge major and g.m. at Saskatoon on March 21.

03/22/10 Red Deer $250.00 for warm-up violation at Saskatoon on March 21

03/22/10 Saskatoon $250.00 for warm-up violation versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Saskatoon $500.00 for second multiple fight of season versus Red Deer on March 21

03/22/10 Saskatoon $3,500.00 for actions of Club versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Randy McNaught Saskatoon Five games for instigator, fight and g.m., and repeat offender versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Lorne Molleken Saskatoon Four games for g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Sena Acolatse Saskatoon Three games for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Darian Dziurzynski Saskatoon Three games for one man fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

03/22/10 Duncan Siemens Saskatoon Three games for instigator, fight and g.m. versus Red Deer on March 21.

Yikes be interesting to see how Struch can coach these boys now

[Wheat Kings #1]

Kudo's to the WHL for hitting these guys hard. As Bruce Luebke states in his blog,the WHL is "fighting" a recruiting issue with kids thinking of going the college route all the time. This only hurts the whole league. My only problem with all this is Lorne Molleken getting off with only 4 games. Sure he cost the Blades $4,250 but how much harm is he costing the WHL. Look at his deadline deals, he only added to the "animal kingdom" he runs up their. Hopefully the Blades have a short playoff run AGAIN, because this kind of hockey is supposed to be long gone. Hopefully someone lets Molleken in on this and if not keep suspending him HARD. It was obvious right from the start when you deal young prospects (Crooks) for Thugs what kind of show you are running.

[lordstanley]

OUT
Benson: Shoulder Injury
McNaught:5 games
Dziurzynski:3 games
Acolatse: 3 games
Siemens: 3 games
Molleken: 4 games

IN
Thrower
Kiziuk
Bews
Sutter
Struch coach

[reims]

Kudo's to the WHL for hitting these guys hard. As Bruce Luebke states in his blog,the WHL is "fighting" a recruiting issue with kids thinking of going the college route all the time. This only hurts the whole league. My only problem with all this is Lorne Molleken getting off with only 4 games. Sure he cost the Blades $4,250 but how much harm is he costing the WHL. Look at his deadline deals, he only added to the "animal kingdom" he runs up their. Hopefully the Blades have a short playoff run AGAIN, because this kind of hockey is supposed to be long gone. Hopefully someone lets Molleken in on this and if not keep suspending him HARD. It was obvious right from the start when you deal young prospects (Crooks) for Thugs what kind of show you are running.

absolute ridiculous post...blades added some players that are hard to play against!...acolatse has been the 2nd best dman behind elliote....and dzuirzynski was player of the month for the blades in february...and siemens was edged out for rookie of the year...so get real...these were not thugs on the ice when this happened...were they tuff guys...absolutely...but play the game with skill too...they were only doing what was asked of them...did lorne over react???...ya probobly, but he is a players coach and was standing up for his goalie...if thsi was the calgary hitmen players doing this would they get such a harsh suspension...NOT...this is brutal to say the least

[WHEATMAN]

Absolutely stupid move by Lorne to 'send a message' by putting the goon squad out. The only message he sent is that he can't coach in the playoffs. As an neutral observer who isn't rooting for either team, one would think that this gives the Rebels a big confidence boost.

What Lorne did was beyond stupid, if you want to get retribution do it later the way the Stone/Teubert incident played out.

[Jaybird]

I think the officiating was an issue in this game. The Rebels were running the Goalie quite a bit and nothing was called, not even a warning. The NHL is having trouble with setting a strong policy for "hits to the head". As long as the NHL can't say no the dangerous hits then the hits will continue in all leagues and teams will want to set the tone by fighting to defend their teammates. Yes maybe Molleken was wrong but the suspensions to the Blades are too harsh. Cowen's suspension seems too minimal compared to what the Blades were handed.

[wango tango]

the developmental league, with developmental refereeing started off on the wrong foot in warmup in game 2.

the rebels deagle was shooting pucks across the red line at blades players who were stretching and warming up. deagle wasn't shooting them hard, just enough to be an azz. when a couple blades players took exception heated words were exchanged. the refs should have handed out penalties right there to both teams. first mistake.

rebels started crashing the net in the first period. i think from where we were sitting the refs warned them to cut it out. cudos to them there.

when the rebels started crashing the crease again in the third the referees didn't assess penalties like they should have. it could've prevented all this garbage from happening. second mistake.

after cowen elbowed stanford the referees took forever to make a call. it was a pretty straight forward play imo. five, 10, and a game. escort him out, drop the puck. instead the officials were indecisive and it gave the blades and coaches time to stew, and time to 'plan' their move. third mistake.

if molleken gets four games, why does wallin get zilch?

i hope the league has read the riot act to both teams about staying away from goaltenders from here on out, or face the consequences.

[Trevor]

Just watched the highlights on the blades website. Cowen's play didn't look as bad as the Blades guys on here made it out to be. Stanford was way out on the white ice. Not trying to justify what happened to him, just pointing it out.

[sbtatter]

Just watched the highlights on the blades website. Cowen's play didn't look as bad as the Blades guys on here made it out to be. Stanford was way out on the white ice. Not trying to justify what happened to him, just pointing it out.

I just went and watched the video, looked like a few of the Blades were continuing to punch away at Red Deer guys when they were down, maybe the length of suspensions reflect that?

[SectionNDeserter]

Anybody got video of the scraps? Nothing on hockeyfights for some reason.I don't think you could even call those fights, I don't know if more than one of the Rebels even got their gloves off.


if molleken gets four games, why does wallin get zilch?What exactly would he get a suspension for? He had nothing to do with the reckless contact with the Blades goaltender. He also didn't put three of his biggest knuckledraggers out on the ice at the end of the game for a powerplay, and actually put out a penalty killing unit out with three out of the four players being players that I don't recall ever having a WHL fight before. Four does seem like a lot for a coach though, I was expecting one or two. If you look at the body language of the refs in this game, they looked PISSED, and I suspect that they had some input into the suspensions.

[Rebelsfan13]

Wango Tango did you really just ask why Wallin gets Zilch? Give your head a shake, that type of comment belongs in an elementary school playground! Moelleken is lucky he only got 4 games. Both coaches were warned and he chose to ignore the warning!

[lordstanley]

Wango Tango did you really just ask why Wallin gets Zilch? Give your head a shake, that type of comment belongs in an elementary school playground! Moelleken is lucky he only got 4 games. Both coaches were warned and he chose to ignore the warning!

I talked to a few Blade members before they left to Red Deer today they feel they have all the momentium and are super pumped to get into Red Deer and wrap this series up quick

[reims]

I talked to a few Blade members before they left to Red Deer today they feel they have all the momentium and are super pumped to get into Red Deer and wrap this series up quick

you know i wouldnt mind if it went 5 games...i would love to see one mare game at home and not only that but chew up one more game of the suspension games, before we hit a good team to play against

[wango tango]

Wango Tango did you really just ask why Wallin gets Zilch? Give your head a shake, that type of comment belongs in an elementary school playground! Moelleken is lucky he only got 4 games. Both coaches were warned and he chose to ignore the warning!

as i see it one of two options.

wallin doesn't have control of his team, told his guys to pay attention to the refs warning, and cowen went against his coach.

or

wallin has control of his team, and ignored the referees warning to his players to lay off of the crease encroachment earlier in the game, and cowen was just doing what he was told.

this is all blown way out of proportion. the shot was uncalled for born out of frustration, the resulting fights overboard, and the suspensions for all players on both teams over reaction.

because of this though good luck to red deer getting anywhere near stanford for the rest of the series the refs and league are going to be watching both teams like a hawk.

[SectionNDeserter]

because of this though good luck to red deer getting anywhere near stanford for the rest of the series the refs and league are going to be watching both teams like a hawk.Agreed, I anticipate a ridiculous number of minor penalties for both teams tomorrow night.

[lordstanley]

http://www.abirdbrain.net/

Guy brings up some real good points about the suspensions

[Trevor]

http://www.abirdbrain.net/

Guy brings up some real good points about the suspensions

Well it's an opinion at least....

[Rebel~66]

http://www.abirdbrain.net/

Guy brings up some real good points about the suspensions

Like Section N says, at least he got the name of the blog right!

[patsdude114]

Well i had seen the highlights here in Regina on our sports coverage & the antics the Blades did on that drop of the puck that was cleary a goonish move by Mollenken.

Not 1 player cared about playing the puck on the Blades everybody's gloves hit the ice & jumped a Rebel.

YAY BLADES!!! u guys have no skill the only way i beat teams is by running them out of the playground. Outside of Hulak ur skill drops off considerably.... Which is why the Blades tried oh so hard to get Eberle out of Regina (which i wish would of happened anyways)

I think the Pats were 1 of a few teams that had success against u guys this year cuz u guys couldnt push Leffler, Ashton, Teubert, McColm & Mitchell around.

Dont get me wrong i love old time hockey, hard hitting & fights but the goonish act by the Blades is well deserved of every suspension. But dont worry u Blades will see the 2nd round cuz Stanford is lights out. Red Deer just cant compete & are a very young team who are scared by the style the Blades play.

Best of luck in the rest of the series, im sure Red Deer will win at least 1 which can be good to burn off another game from the suspensions

[lordstanley]

Well i had seen the highlights here in Regina on our sports coverage & the antics the Blades did on that drop of the puck that was cleary a goonish move by Mollenken.

Not 1 player cared about playing the puck on the Blades everybody's gloves hit the ice & jumped a Rebel.

YAY BLADES!!! u guys have no skill the only way i beat teams is by running them out of the playground. Outside of Hulak ur skill drops off considerably.... Which is why the Blades tried oh so hard to get Eberle out of Regina (which i wish would of happened anyways)

I think the Pats were 1 of a few teams that had success against u guys this year cuz u guys couldnt push Leffler, Ashton, Teubert, McColm & Mitchell around.

Dont get me wrong i love old time hockey, hard hitting & fights but the goonish act by the Blades is well deserved of every suspension. But dont worry u Blades will see the 2nd round cuz Stanford is lights out. Red Deer just cant compete & are a very young team who are scared by the style the Blades play.

Best of luck in the rest of the series, im sure Red Deer will win at least 1 which can be good to burn off another game from the suspensions

You want some cheese with that wine ? your a Pats fan with a hillbilly for a GM so your opinion pretty much means jack **** Think before you talk about Hulak being the only skilled player on our team ELLIOTT HULAK VIEDENSKY PATTERSON NIEMI STANFORD

[dodywood4ever]

I don't think you could even call those fights, I don't know if more than one of the Rebels even got their gloves off.

What exactly would he get a suspension for? He had nothing to do with the reckless contact with the Blades goaltender. He also didn't put three of his biggest knuckledraggers out on the ice at the end of the game for a powerplay, and actually put out a penalty killing unit out with three out of the four players being players that I don't recall ever having a WHL fight before. Four does seem like a lot for a coach though, I was expecting one or two. If you look at the body language of the refs in this game, they looked PISSED, and I suspect that they had some input into the suspensions.

He had nothing to do with it? Are you serious? And then to throw four guys under the bus when he knew revenge was coming was a real pathetic move. If any of the Rebels would have been hurt in that brawl it would be directly on Wallins head.

[Wildeyes]

He had nothing to do with it? Are you serious? And then to throw four guys under the bus when he knew revenge was coming was a real pathetic move. If any of the Rebels would have been hurt in that brawl it would be directly on Wallins head.

So if Rebel was hurt in this Attack it wasn't a brawl it was the blades Attacking the Rebels the blame would fall on the coach who's team was Attacked not the Coach or players who did the Attacking. Interesting. :confused:
So Lorne is not to blame. And if it was for hitting Stanford. How hurt was Stanford did he leave the game is he going to play next game. Was it season ending.

This is putting a black mark on hockey right now I like a good fight now and again but this was brutal. These hockey players are just kids.

[SectionNDeserter]

He had nothing to do with it? Are you serious?What exact role did he play in Cowen hitting the goaltender? With evidence provided to back up your claim, of course.


And then to throw four guys under the bus when he knew revenge was coming was a real pathetic move. If any of the Rebels would have been hurt in that brawl it would be directly on Wallins head.The officials warned both benches before the faceoff. The Rebels are in tough in this series, and Wallin, like the players I am sure, didn't want to have an entire line suspended. Molleken was angry, and in his rage he threw his 4 guys under the bus by putting them in a position where they could be suspended for multiple games.

[Joe Hallenback]

I don't know if any of you ever played hockey at that level or not but it sounds like most of you haven't

Sorry to say if a team is running over your goalie accidentally or not the **** is going to hit the fan. Blaming the coach because you think he is the only one who is pissed is wrong. I can tell you from experience that every player on that bench was pissed.

As much as you like to think these are kids out there, they are not really. They are young men who in days past might be off fighting a war. Junior hockey is not a place to coddle and treat gently. It is a tough place to play and if you can't handle the consequences of the actions you or your teammates get involved in then don't play.

It was clear the refs for whatever reason felt it was ok for Red Deer to run over Saskatoon's goalie. If that is the case there is only one way to deal with that. Send over your toughest guys (fyi one of which is a 16 year old) and have them exact some retribution.

[Rebelsfan13]

I agree it sounds like most of you have never played hockey. The coach is in control of these situations especially in the final minute after the bench was just warned, if you seriously think that Moelleken didn't send those guys out to do just that then you are kidding yourself. Anybody who has played a high level of hockey has had a coach tell him to do something or knew what he was to do when he is put on the ice in that situation. If one guy went after a Rebel at the face off it would be one thing but he sent out a goon unit and they did what they were asked and expected to do...the only thing missing was the chief with his head dress

[Joe Hallenback]

I agree it sounds like most of you have never played hockey. The coach is in control of these situations especially in the final minute after the bench was just warned, if you seriously think that Moelleken didn't send those guys out to do just that then you are kidding yourself. Anybody who has played a high level of hockey has had a coach tell him to do something or knew what he was to do when he is put on the ice in that situation. If one guy went after a Rebel at the face off it would be one thing but he sent out a goon unit and they did what they were asked and expected to do...the only thing missing was the chief with his head dress

Seriously if you are upset your team got there collective butts handed to them you really need to ask them why they ran over the goalie not once not twice but three times that game? Oh ya thats right the Rebels have scored exactly 0 goals in those 2 games.

Look at Saskatoon's lineup. You think the dress McNaught,Gogol,Dzuizynski and company for looks? Play with the Bull you will get the horns

Tell your boys to Man up.

And no at no time did Molleken tell his guys to go out and goon it up. Again if you played you don't need to be told you already know what to do

[rebel]

And no at no time did Molleken tell his guys to go out and goon it up.

just wondering then joe why did the ref talk to Molleken for at least 2 minutes after the cowen hit telling him to switch lines and/or dont do anything stupid. your coach must have told them cause isnt it odd that all of the 5 players went after us. they had there assignment and they completed it and now they are paying for it.

[Rebelsfan13]

I am not upset, the Rebels are getting their butts handed to them and they need to pick it up if they have any chance of winning a game let alone the series. The Rebels are a young team and will be better next year because of their experience this year! Saskatoon's time is now, they have 9 19 year olds and we all know that they won't all be there next year! This is your chance at making a run for the title (by the way Red Deer already has one and has been in the league a lot less) and if you don't do it this year then you will be waiting again for a few more years while you rebuild.

As for guys knowing what to do if you read what I said above the coach either told you or you know what to do....Moelleken was warned if he listened to the warning he would have told his players not to, and no one goes against the coach, if you played you know that!

[Allin44]

And no at no time did Molleken tell his guys to go out and goon it up.

just wondering then joe why did the ref talk to Molleken for at least 2 minutes after the cowen hit telling him to switch lines and/or dont do anything stupid. your coach must have told them cause isnt it odd that all of the 5 players went after us. they had there assignment and they completed it and now they are paying for it.

Did he send them out to score? No. But he didn't gather them at the bench and tell them what to do. Those guys know what they are out there to do.

[rebel]

all im saying is the coach sent them out there they new what the coach wanted them to do and they did it. he had the chance to change lines and he didnt.

[Joe Hallenback]

So whats the problem

Don't run the goalie off a team with a lot of tough guys they will then proceed to smash your team into the ground if you do so

Whats hard to understand about that?

[rebel]

protecting your goalie is one thing beating up 5 players that didnt do anything to anybody and are not fighters is just plain bullying.

[rednex50]

I see nothing wrong with what the Blades did. Would you rather have Blades run YOUR goalie or your best player???

Get your heads out of your asses and look at this properly.

rebels ran this goalie several times during the game. No calls, no nothing. then a major hit, on a star goalie. hmmm...do you not think that these "band of brothers" who eat, sleep and grow up together won't take offense to such a deliberate against one of their 'brothers" and a much needed leader on that club?

I'm actually surprised that Cowen got 4 games...expected only 2. Coach is responsible for WHATEVER happens out there on the ice...so I can see why he got spanked...but not the number of games. McNaught...man I miss that kid here in Chilliwack...maybe 3 games for living by the code. The rest...just a game for fighting with less than 5 to go in a game.

But yes...these ref's should be hauled in for losing control of the game and someone has to go "mcnaught" all over Robison for these suspensions. get yor life insurance paid up on your netminders guys...looks like its open season.

[lordstanley]

all im saying is the coach sent them out there they new what the coach wanted them to do and they did it. he had the chance to change lines and he didnt.

This is old time hockey Red Deer deserved what they got Stanford getting runned all the time was rediculous this use to happen all the time and anyone who thinks Lorne sent out his goons is a moron Toomey McNaught and Dziurzynski have been playing as a line for the previous 5 game together and we werent gonna send out our top line and run up the score another thing is i believe that lorne sent out that line as a pp unit cause recently he roles lines for his pp so his systems don't get lout of wack McNaught gets 5 games what a fricken joke cause what he's a 6'5 240 he fed that rebel his lunch and totally let up on him when he could put him into a coma hell even barnstable could get a suspension for leaving his crease


Anyways the suspensions were a complete joke and if this happends again im done watching playoffs hockey good job WHL ASS CLOWNS

[lordstanley]

This is old time hockey Red Deer deserved what they got Stanford getting runned all the time was rediculous this use to happen all the time and anyone who thinks Lorne sent out his goons is a moron Toomey McNaught and Dziurzynski have been playing as a line for the previous 5 game together and we werent gonna send out our top line and run up the score another thing is i believe that lorne sent out that line as a pp unit cause recently he roles lines for his pp so his systems don't get lout of wack McNaught gets 5 games what a fricken joke cause what he's a 6'5 240 he fed that rebel his lunch and totally let up on him when he could put him into a coma hell even barnstable could get a suspension for leaving his crease


Anyways the suspensions were a complete joke and if this happends again im done watching playoffs hockey good job WHL ASS CLOWNS

10 years ago this stuff would have never even made headlines it happend all the time lorne never told his guys to do what he did it's a unspoken messege and i think most fans in saskatoon are glad with what happend

[rednex50]

Also...where was the suspension for the rebel's goalie jumping in and landing a punch or 2 as "Third Man In" during the Brawl???

That might be the biggest mistake done by Robison and company here. If you are gonna throw the book at the infractions...at least get every infraction right.

[rebel]

if they did im sure we would not beating up the next line to the ground. red deer has more respect for there opponents. cowen i agree what he did was wrong and he is paying the price. anyway for those going to either one or both of the games safe travels gettin here and enjoy red deer

[rebel]

Also...where was the suspension for the rebel's goalie jumping in and landing a punch or 2 as "Third Man In" during the Brawl???

That might be the biggest mistake done by Robison and company here. If you are gonna throw the book at the infractions...at least get every infraction right.

and if you look at the video barnstable tried to pull your guy of are guy there were no punch thrown.

[Joe Hallenback]

if they did im sure we would not beating up the next line to the ground. red deer has more respect for there opponents. cowen i agree what he did was wrong and he is paying the price. anyway for those going to either one or both of the games safe travels gettin here and enjoy red deer

Respect for your Opponent means not running the Goalie in his net and it was 3 times in one game

[rednex50]

and if you look at the video barnstable tried to pull your guy of are guy there were no punch thrown.

If HE gets involved in ANY fashion, it is "Third Man In"

And I am a Bruins fan...not a Blades or Rebel. Completely neutral here. But Robison screwed up bad with these suspensions.

Lesson here: teams, make sure your goaltenders life insurance is paid up...cuz the league doesn't give a **** about protecting them.

[witness]

Saw the news reel. Interesting stuff.
You talk about not having the expereince of playing at a high level.
Well, I have and I can share a bit of information for you.
Did Wallin send out Cowen with the instruction of running the goalie. No. But, the message of Red Deer has made it too easy on Stanford was discussed before the game, between periods, and pointed out at the 2 minute break in the 3rd period. The incident happened and the next faceoff Wallin sends his players out for fauter (sp??). All you needed to do is send your tough guy out and accept the invitation from McNaught, the referees would have let you make the change. You don't have to worry about the league holding him responsible, there is a good chance that he has lost half the players in the room.
Did Mollekin tell his players to fight. No. These guys knew what they were suppose to do the minute that they were tapped on the back to go. Does Mollekin deserve the suspension? Yes. But, he has done more for the respect from the players than Wallin. He has shown that he will protect the players and his players will now go through the wall for him. This is a perfect example of why kids love to play for Lorne.
Do the suspensions hurt the Blades? Yes. They lost some good role players and there is not a better bench boss in the WHL than Mollekin. But, this will also bring the players closer together. The fact that the Red Deer players were running from the Blade players, that tape has been viewed many times by the players. By now, they are having a huge laugh at the Red Deer players and will take every opportunity to point out to the RD players that they are a bunch of wussies. The players have also rallied around the situation and will become a stronger team, they have the 'us against the world' stance. Before they only disliked the Red deer players, now they HATE them. The Blades are not happy with beating them anymore, they want to destroy them. They will look to punish them at every turn. The trick will be to play with that edge, without hurting your team.

[Joe Hallenback]

Saw the news reel. Interesting stuff.
You talk about not having the expereince of playing at a high level.
Well, I have and I can share a bit of information for you.
Did Wallin send out Cowen with the instruction of running the goalie. No. But, the message of Red Deer has made it too easy on Stanford was discussed before the game, between periods, and pointed out at the 2 minute break in the 3rd period. The incident happened and the next faceoff Wallin sends his players out for fauter (sp??). All you needed to do is send your tough guy out and accept the invitation from McNaught, the referees would have let you make the change. You don't have to worry about the league holding him responsible, there is a good chance that he has lost half the players in the room.
Did Mollekin tell his players to fight. No. These guys knew what they were suppose to do the minute that they were tapped on the back to go. Does Mollekin deserve the suspension? Yes. But, he has done more for the respect from the players than Wallin. He has shown that he will protect the players and his players will now go through the wall for him. This is a perfect example of why kids love to play for Lorne.
Do the suspensions hurt the Blades? Yes. They lost some good role players and there is not a better bench boss in the WHL than Mollekin. But, this will also bring the players closer together. The fact that the Red Deer players were running from the Blade players, that tape has been viewed many times by the players. By now, they are having a huge laugh at the Red Deer players and will take every opportunity to point out to the RD players that they are a bunch of wussies. The players have also rallied around the situation and will become a stronger team, they have the 'us against the world' stance. Before they only disliked the Red deer players, now they HATE them. The Blades are not happy with beating them anymore, they want to destroy them. They will look to punish them at every turn. The trick will be to play with that edge, without hurting your team.

That is a pretty fair assesment

[Rebel~66]

That is a pretty fair assesment

Fair from one perspective (the Blades) only. I think most of it is a load of bull quite honestly but then again that's only fair from my perspective.

[Wildeyes]

The third man in would probably not apply because of the multiple fights. But he did get 2 mins for leaving the crease.

[Rebelsfan13]

I think your assessment is very fair even from a Rebels perspective, although I think your naive to believe it goes one way. The Rebels players will HATE the Blades just as much as the Blades hate them and will have just as much drive to win and to punish the blades. At this level, Players play to win, it's that simple! Whether or not the Rebels will go through the wall for Wallin is irrelevant, every single one of them will be P***ED for what happened in that game and will do whatever they can to get even for themselves! I am a fan and it is bugging me, and I would bring that intensity if I were playing a mens league game tonight lol, I imagine, no I know that they are feeling emotions greater than mine!

[brandonboy]

Well Blades fans! Just think, it coulda been worse.... Just think if it was the OHL commisioner handing out the suspensions!:)

[rednex50]

yes...David Branch is a bigger tool.

Would have been 30 game suspensions if he was pulling the trigger.

[Rebelsfan13]

Good point.

[witness]

I think your naive to believe it goes one way

Is Archer hurt?
Because if I was a player I would be wondering why he wasn't on the ice.

Deagle and Haber are no fighters. Red Deer would have been more served to have a guy like Morin on the ice.

I am not as naive as you think. Red Deer will have players sitting in the room that are now questioning the coach. Saskatoon is focused and will pick up much more energy from this than Red Deer.

[reims]

Is Archer hurt?
Because if I was a player I would be wondering why he wasn't on the ice.

Deagle and Haber are no fighters. Red Deer would have been more served to have a guy like Morin on the ice.

I am not as naive as you think. Red Deer will have players sitting in the room that are now questioning the coach. Saskatoon is focused and will pick up much more energy from this than Red Deer.

haber actually got in a pretty good right on mcnuaght, made him bleed actually....dont get me wrong mcnuaght tuned him in pretty good, but haber did better then i ever expected him too.

[SectionNDeserter]

Is Archer hurt?
Because if I was a player I would be wondering why he wasn't on the ice..Wallin was putting out a as decent a penalty killing unit as he could that would be less likely to aggravate the situation and draw a multi-game suspension. Seems to have worked out for him, as his team wound up with 4 games worth of suspension, instead of 18.

There was a time that every team had to have an enforcer, a tough guy with little to no hockey skill that was in the lineup to enforce a code of conduct. That time is gone. The NHL and it's developmental leagues have been chipping away at it since before the NHL lockout. I don't like it any more than anyone else, but it is the way things are now--build a bridge and get over it. Whether you agree with Molleken's way of dealing with the situation, it has been wrong by the WHL's standards, for quite some time now, and I really don't see that changing. You can either adapt your coaching style to it, or live in the past and face the consequences.

[lordstanley]

Let the misconducts continue another 10 misc for gogol for yapping

[wango tango]

a goaltending clinic put on by stanford and barnstable in game three. rebels have scored once in three games. not going to win too many like that.

without the ability to get in stanford's kitchen, what hope do the rebels have to get him off his game?

special teams battle won by saskatoon last night with one goal on the power play, giving up none on the penalty kill.

without elliott's giveaway leading to coetzee's goal do the rebels get shutout for a third straight?

future looks bright for saskatoon with four youngsters; dietz, thrower, sutter, and bews getting the call.

anyone know benson's injury status?

[patsdude114]

You want some cheese with that wine ? your a Pats fan with a hillbilly for a GM so your opinion pretty much means jack **** Think before you talk about Hulak being the only skilled player on our team ELLIOTT HULAK VIEDENSKY PATTERSON NIEMI STANFORD


haha & ya its my fault our GM is who it is right??? i hired him right???


Hulak is the only high end skilled forward u guys have plain and simple, Viedensky is 1 of the better euros in the league forsure.

I didnt say anything about ur defense Elliott is 1 of the best Dmen in the league by far. The Blades whole game plan is to run players play physical hockey & scare the other team cuz even Mollenken knows the skill level isnt high end. The Blades compete every night which gives them a great chance to win night in & night out.

The Blades rnt going to beat u with skill, cuz they lack alot of skill.

[patsdude114]

Well Blades fans! Just think, it coulda been worse.... Just think if it was the OHL commisioner handing out the suspensions!:)

WOW & how true is this statement Branch is a fool with power & he will flex his power at anything.

He prob would of thought about the suspensions for a week before he made a call lol

[wango tango]

haha & ya its my fault our GM is who it is right??? i hired him right???


Hulak is the only high end skilled forward u guys have plain and simple, Viedensky is 1 of the better euros in the league forsure.

I didnt say anything about ur defense Elliott is 1 of the best Dmen in the league by far. The Blades whole game plan is to run players play physical hockey & scare the other team cuz even Mollenken knows the skill level isnt high end. The Blades compete every night which gives them a great chance to win night in & night out.

The Blades rnt going to beat u with skill, cuz they lack alot of skill.

care to guess who scored more goals this season regina or saskatoon?

also care to guess who had more 20 or more goal scorers, regina or saskatoon?

but yeah the blades are a bunch of no talent goons. :rolleyes:

[lordstanley]

care to guess who scored more goals this season regina or saskatoon?

also care to guess who had more 20 or more goal scorers, regina or saskatoon?

but yeah the blades are a bunch of no talent goons. :rolleyes:

Take Hulak out of our lineup then take Eberle out of there lineup thats the differense right there more skilled depth fowards we have but yeah i gotta agree scoring the 5th most goals in the WHL does make for a goon squad and being 19th on the pp most of our goals came 5 on 5 very goonish

[Jaybird]

To Patsdude:

Yes Hulak is skilled but he is not the only one. The blades have a great mix of tough and tough and talented forwards. I would hardly call Patterson a goon. At any rate I guess the proof is in who is the playoffs and who isn't.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

Thats fine and dandy, but how many 100 point players did the blades have?

:bounce:

[wango tango]

Thats fine and dandy, but how many 100 point players did the blades have?

:bounce:

the exact same number of 100 point players the pats have playing right now.... zero.

[Rebelsfan13]

special teams battle won by saskatoon last night with one goal on the power play, giving up none on the penalty kill.

The Rebels PK was great last night with one whole in it, having to suffer due to Herman's stupidity. To give a 5-3 PP on those two calls is a joke.


future looks bright for saskatoon with four youngsters; dietz, thrower, sutter, and bews getting the call.


They looked pretty good with limited ice time but you will be losing (at my count) around 9 players all together so you better find 5 more new guys to play with those four, I don't think I would be as confident knowing that half of my team was going to be new next year.

[Wheat Kings #1]

Mollekin started out as an assistant to Paddy Ginnell? Well now doesn't that make things a lot clearer...

[lordstanley]

Nice work on the sweep Blades good luck in round 2. and atta boy Stanford !

Good job boys so either Koot MH or Bra i'll take MH please our record against them is pretty impressive this season and there another team that gets intiminated by our size anyways time to enjoy a few woblee pops after this great SWEEP :bevvy: