playoff poll

[west coast]

from Rod Pederson,s blog - Plenty of NHL scouts in the area feel the Regina Pats will indeed make the playoffs in 2011, snapping a two year drought. What an accomplishment that would be, given the projections of a 21st-place finish this year- what do you guys think?

[patsdude114]

are they predicting that the Broncos &/or Oil Kings fail to make playoffs??

the way PA is playing lately they look to be a playoff lock easily.

lets not forget Lethbridge as well they are playing well too.

I do hope we sneak into the playoffs though even if we do get swept by the Blades 1st round its still playoff experience.

[west coast]

I think the Pats are in tough to make the playoffs.Edm seems to have 7th spot or higher locked up.That would leave Regina battling with PA,Brandon,Lethbridge and Calgary could come on to make it an interesting playoff fight.Odds are against the Pats to make the playoffs as reaching .500 hockey seems to be a challenge

[whlking]

Personally, this is how I see the east shaking down.

6.Edmonton
7.Prince Albert
8.Swift Current
9.Brandon
10.Regina
11.Calgary
12.Lethbridge

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

I dont think we will catch Edmonton, as they are just too good. Great coached team. But the others are possibilities.

Some teams are on the decline, some are trending up. But it will also depend on which pats show up in the coming game though. The passive defensive hunt pats that we saw last night that were playing the perimeter all game last night wont make the playoffs.

[patsdude114]

Personally, this is how I see the east shaking down.

6.Edmonton
7.Prince Albert
8.Swift Current
9.Brandon
10.Regina
11.Calgary
12.Lethbridge


wow man i swear every post u make must be after u have some alternative tabacco..... do u really think LETH is going to drop an 8 point lead up on CGY for last in the eastern conference?

haha ill bet a bag of alternative tabacco that, that doesnt happen. LETH would have to get a series of injuries to top players for this to even come close to happening... but i will say 6th 7th 8th look fairly accurate, but i truely feel LETH will be finishing 9th

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

bumpity bump

The race gets more interesting the closer to the end we get. Swifty continues to plummet, and even though Lethbrige is tied with us, they have lots of games vs top central teams to close the year. Not that either of those two are out of the race yet or anything, but they have a tougher route to a playoff spot than the others.

Brandon and PA sit in 7th and 8th, but both spots are very much up for grabs especially considering how often we all play each other. Though the pats have it pretty tough coming up. Lots of away games ahead of us including a 6 game roader. We also play Brandon 3 more times(twice @), swift + PA twice but no more games vs the canes. Worth noting we have 3 more vs MJ, a team we seem to often have trouble with. Again, two of the three are in their barn as well. We have to learn how to play on the road or we are in a deep hole after just the road trip.

Also worth noting we got a home n home vs saskatoon at the end. Normally its customary for teams to scratch some of their top players on the last game of the season, but it could be interesting to see what happens if we are poised to face each other in the post season.

....But thats a month away, and you cant get your hopes up or get ahead of ourselves yet. Have to win some games before we get to talk about that. Next game against PA is extremely important.

[west coast]

The Pats have surprised alot of people with their record at this point.They dont have a good schedule to close out the season.The trades made at the deadline changed the whole chemistry of the team.Regina picked up some hard working players ,and the team now believes that not only do they belong in a playoff hunt.They also believe that they can attain a playoff berth

[patsdude114]

Since Xmas time the Pats have been playing there best hockey in the last 3 yrs (2 of which we missed the playoffs) 10-12 (with three 1 goal losses to LETH, MH, MJ) if we had been playing anywhere close to .500 hockey when we had more skilll in our line up (Ashton, Frazee) we wouldnt be in this situation were in now.

Its kinda sad to say the Pats have been playing there best hockey in the last 3 yrs (since xmas) & still have a lossing record of 10-12... just goes to show how badly Parker ran our teams when we had players such as Eberle, Teubert, Leffler & Strueby.

Strueby had 25g in 08/09 & 37 in 09/10
Leffler had 33g in 08/09 & a disappointing 18g in 09/10
Eberle had 35g in 08/09 & 50g in 09/10

Then throw in Weal & we had 4 very good forward & then also throw in Ashton at xmas time last season & make that 5 but yet missed the playoffs. This years team has less skill, but players who actually want to work & skate.

I remember last year when the Pats gave Jung a chance to play & everyone was thrown away with how fast he was on our team. He was by far the fastest player on the ice hands down last season with no 1 to even contend him for that (besides maybe Weal) now this year yes Jung is still our fastest (as i think he did win the fastest skater but could be wrong cant remember) but there are alot of other skaters that can keep pace with Jung.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

pats got a little over 10 games left, most of which are on the road, and I think the next 3 or so will probably be a good indication what direction we are going...we either get our **** together, or we might end up pulling out of the playoff race early. One thing for sure is we have to play better on this road trip than we did at home the last few games. Like with last night, we were playing down to the level of the team we are playing against. We just cant do that again the next time we face them since they are supposed to be our easier games in comparison to other teams like the tigers that we play tonight.


...but if you ask me, though our future is still mostly in our own hands, PA and Brandon are both playing better than we are right now. Obviously that has to change if we are going to get a spot, whether it is their own play, or the other teams remaining on their schedule doing their part.

I mean, gosh, it would be swell for a change, since this is something the pats never seem to get when it counts. The last two years we always see two teams we chase getting SOL points(stands for two things) when they play each other, or teams with secure playoff spots playing their raw backups against the surging desperate teams we are racing against, etc...(of course followed by our own implosion, if it wasnt already evident)

However, the good news part for us is that barring any possible changes, SC and Lethbridge are starting to look like they will be non factors. SC is hitting new lows and Lethbridge has an unholy schedule ahead of them. Id be extremely surprised to see either of these teams getting the last playoff spot.

[patsdude114]

After last nites shootout loss it doesnt look good for the Pats at all.... tonites game in MH im not holding my breath to even get a point to be honest let alone 2pts.......

The next 3 games after tonite have now became the most important.... against Calgary, Swift Current & Brandon we NEED all 3 wins just to get back into the thick of things, but most importantly we need to beat CGY & SC the way BRN is playing im not thinking we will do too well in BRN next Saturday nite but they are a young team we can hope that they pick that game to derail there fine play of late.

Also i wouldnt say that we played down to CGY's level on Friday nite, CGY played a great game actually it was a very entertaining hockey game. Was a great skating game & both sides left great chances on the table with no finish.

One thing that does hurt my head though about this Pats team (or maybe more importantly its just a Hunt coached team) is our breakout completely STINKS 59 games into the season & we still struggle to bring the puck out of our own zone.

Ive already have slightly started to look forward to next season, with this group all being a year older. Losing Scheinder will be no loss & lately the way Reddin has been playing i most definately wont miss his turnovers. As for Negium i do wish he was only 19 instead of 20, this guy has brought alot to our team. Im very surprised he doesnt get mentioned more for the Hardest Worker each nite along with Mitchell.

[west coast]

Neigum has been a godsend.Lang made an astute trade when he acquired the leadership of Neigum.His feisty play ,and work ethic will be sorely missed next year.Hopefully a guy like Lane Scheidl can fill that leadership role next year

[trucker]

With the way Mark Lamb has been coaching the Broncos into the ground, (the same way BP did to your team) I really see the Broncos finishing dead last in the conference, will be close with Calgary but they have 3 games at hand. Definately the Pats will finish ahead of us but you guys are still in tough to make post season, but it's not out of the question. Add 2 points to your teams total when you come to the Iplex to play us. Never seen a collapse like this in Bronco land, but thanks to Lamb, this season turned out to be a quite a joke. Maybe we can combine the franchise "loser leaders" to Brent Lamb or Mark Parker. Either way both guys are idiots!!

[patsdude114]

At least Lamb got something (ok ALOT) for ur star player, unfortunately we cant say the same for our superstar (Eberle) & 1 of the best Dmen at age 19 (in Tuebert) trading both guys we all know could of set the Pats up for the yrs to come.

I can really see why Parker wanted Stone for Eberle last year but from what i have heard in those trade talks Parker got very greedy in the trade talks with KM also wanted two 1st rd picks & a 2nd rd pick along with a Dman prospect. Was Eberle worth all that?? yes that he was but BRN didnt need to unload all that for there offense cuz they already had a great offense, but looking back that trade wouldnt of helped BRN win the Memorial Cup anyways, cuz there D was soft & there goaltending was brutal.

I would of liked to have seen what Lang would/could of got for Eberle, oh ya Lang wouldnt of had to have traded Eberle cuz he would of made sure the right pieces were on the team to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Also trucker i look forward to the Pats coming into SC to take those 2pts & be 1 win away from sweeping the whole season series. Maybe before Lamb gets fired maybe Lang can snag 1 of ur 20yr olds for next season Peddle or Vause would look great in a Pats jersey.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

would prefer Wagner, at least he can take a hit. Lamb doesnt seem to like those type of players after all...

And I hope the pats team doesnt have the same attitude as you do. We arent exactly world beaters, and SC might surprise. We cant afford to lose any more games.

[WHEATMAN]

there D was soft & there goaltending was brutal.

There was nothing wrong with Brandon's defence last year; Hamonic, Urbom, and Miller provided all sorts of nasty. Memorial Cup calibre defence I say.

But yeah, goaltending was pretty bad...

[sbtatter]

There was nothing wrong with Brandon's defence last year; Hamonic, Urbom, and Miller provided all sorts of nasty. Memorial Cup calibre defence I say.

But yeah, goaltending was pretty bad...

We did miss Miller and Bestland (Thanks Hale) at the Mem Cup

[WHEATMAN]

We did miss Miller and Bestland (Thanks Hale) at the Mem Cup

Hale was responsible for Miller not playing too? I thought that rumour only pertained to the mysterious Bestland facial injury. In any case, Hale shouldn't have been on the team last year, nicknaming him "Dinger" was an insult to Chris Dingman.

[HURRICANE'S ROCK]

wow man i swear every post u make must be after u have some alternative tabacco..... do u really think LETH is going to drop an 8 point lead up on CGY for last in the eastern conference?

haha ill bet a bag of alternative tabacco that, that doesnt happen. LETH would have to get a series of injuries to top players for this to even come close to happening... but i will say 6th 7th 8th look fairly accurate, but i truely feel LETH will be finishing 9th

I kinda thought the same thing. The Canes are no world beaters but drop below Calgary!!!

[sbtatter]

Hale was responsible for Miller not playing too? I thought that rumour only pertained to the mysterious Bestland facial injury. In any case, Hale shouldn't have been on the team last year, nicknaming him "Dinger" was an insult to Chris Dingman.

No, he was just responsible forbestland, hence the name Hale behind Bestland. Miller had an unrelated injury for all the playoffs didn't he? Sure missed those 2 guys in the series against Calgary imo

[patsdude114]

There was nothing wrong with Brandon's defence last year; Hamonic, Urbom, and Miller provided all sorts of nasty. Memorial Cup calibre defence I say.

But yeah, goaltending was pretty bad...


I know this thread has completely gone off topic now lol but after the top 3 of Hamonic, Urbom & Robak the D thined out very fast, you cant compete for a Memorial Cup with 3 top Dmen & a bunch of 6th Dmen... Lately i really dont understand why Scheinder was on ur team last year either.

[sbtatter]

Lately i really dont understand why Scheinder was on ur team last year either.

Join the club:)

[patsdude114]

oh well he is still better then Faveru (god cant even remember how to spell his name anymore, not that its important) ok i searched it Favreau

though i do still wish we had Hampus he does have a good skill level especially with some of the crap euro's that are in our league this year.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

big chance to climb the standings tonight

wheats and PA get two contender teams, we get SC(but CANNOT underestimate them), and Lethbridge goes against an underrated Edmonton team. Im personally getting annoyed with Lethbridge getting a loser point every game, but the most important thing is catching up to the two teams currently in playoff spots. If things go right tonight, which is entirely possible, this could do wonders for our chances and team confidence.

That being said, we have to be focused on our game the most. We pretty much cant afford to lose again this season.

[WHEATMAN]

oh well he is still better then Faveru (god cant even remember how to spell his name anymore, not that its important) ok i searched it Favreau

though i do still wish we had Hampus he does have a good skill level especially with some of the crap euro's that are in our league this year.

Favreau hasn't been bad since he came to Brandon. Since joing the club he has 5 goals and 8 assists for 13 points in 38 games; I know thats not spectacular, but considering he gets fourth line minutes he gets a passing grade from me. Hell, he's already almost doubled his Pats point total in his half season in Brandon, the kid's a decent checker too.

To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked to see Favreau as a third liner/first unit PK guy who puts up 30-40 points next year. Basically a Paul Ciarelli type player with more offensive upside.

Definitely worth trading Schneider I say.

[patsdude114]

Favreau hasn't been bad since he came to Brandon. Since joing the club he has 5 goals and 8 assists for 13 points in 38 games; I know thats not spectacular, but considering he gets fourth line minutes he gets a passing grade from me. Hell, he's already almost doubled his Pats point total in his half season in Brandon, the kid's a decent checker too.

To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked to see Favreau as a third liner/first unit PK guy who puts up 30-40 points next year. Basically a Paul Ciarelli type player with more offensive upside.

Definitely worth trading Schneider I say.


Hell that should be happening as he is an 18yr old this season the guy is a 1st rd bust & to be honest id be surprised if he makes the WKs next season as a 19yr old

[sbtatter]

Hell that should be happening as he is an 18yr old this season the guy is a 1st rd bust & to be honest id be surprised if he makes the WKs next season as a 19yr old

To be honest I think it was a minor trade that worked out for both players and teams. Both guys would have been out of the league, both have contributed to their new teams, good trade by both GM's....

[Wheat Kings #1]

KM got rid of Schneider, a year too late, but getting anything for him was a surprize. He took a chance on Favreau and he has been O.K. Will probably be here next year and who knows he may put it all together and turn into a decent player. Remember Jeff Topilko?

[patsdude114]

KM got rid of Schneider, a year too late, but getting anything for him was a surprize. He took a chance on Favreau and he has been O.K. Will probably be here next year and who knows he may put it all together and turn into a decent player. Remember Jeff Topilko?


Yep i know how u feel about that cuz us Pat fans feel the same way about Favreau.... hell i would of been happy if BRN sent us a bag of pucks (which is 12) for the deal, the kid just showed no progression at all since he has been 16, especially for a 1st rd pick...

& yes i do remember Jeff Topilko turned into a pretty good hockey player but i wouldnt hold ur breath long in hoping Favreau turns into anything like him

[sbtatter]

Yep i know how u feel about that cuz us Pat fans feel the same way about Favreau.... hell i would of been happy if BRN sent us a bag of pucks (which is 12) for the deal, the kid just showed no progression at all since he has been 16, especially for a 1st rd pick...

& yes i do remember Jeff Topilko turned into a pretty good hockey player but i wouldnt hold ur breath long in hoping Favreau turns into anything like him Why is so hard to believe that Favreau has contributed as much to as as Schneider has to the Pats? It was a good trade for everyone, be happy for the players and the teams...

[Allin44]

http://www.whlfans.ca/showthread.php?t=21330&page=17

theres last years playoff poll.

Boom.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

i dont know whats worse, the powerplay bonanza tonight, or being reminded that this douche still exists...

ugh, you would say things like 'boom'

[Allin44]

Why is so hard to believe that Favreau has contributed as much to as as Schneider has to the Pats? It was a good trade for everyone, be happy for the players and the teams...

Yeah it was really a nothing for nothing trade, just gave each guy a chance to stay in the league probably. Works for both sides, nobody wins, nobody loses.

[Allin44]

KM got rid of Schneider, a year too late, but getting anything for him was a surprize. He took a chance on Favreau and he has been O.K. Will probably be here next year and who knows he may put it all together and turn into a decent player. Remember Jeff Topilko?

Topilko showed promise his whole career. he had the blazing speed but it just took him awhile for his hands to catch up. Don't see that same potential in Favreau.

[Joe Hallenback]

Scneider -4 tonight and -39 on the season. The Pats have to have a 16 or 17 year old some where that can at least do that

[sbtatter]

i dont know whats worse, the powerplay bonanza tonight, or being reminded that this douche still exists...

ugh, you would say things like 'boom'

Remember the last game in bdn when bell looked like wuss after he crapped himself when Ferland told him to leave Meiuller alone? To be fair, I have to admit that Wiebe did the same tonight when challenged by Davidson after hitting weal. And Bell fought Fransoo, decision bell. 5 fights, Seamans lost a decision, Miller a tie with Negieum, Miller a decision over Mitchell and ferland a decision over #55, no blow out fights. Refs were brutal in 1st period, giving phantom calls both ways. And they waved off Glennies goal that would have made it 10, the ref knew he blew the whistle too early but there was no turning back, good job it wasn't a close game.

[sbtatter]

Scneider -4 tonight and -39 on the season. The Pats have to have a 16 or 17 year old some where that can at least do that

He looked like he was just going through the motions. The Pats have Weal, Mitchell and Davidson, that's it. hard to believe that we're already better than them even though we're a year behind in the rebuild stakes....

[Allin44]

Remember the last game in bdn when bell looked like wuss after he crapped himself when Ferland told him to leave Meiuller alone? To be fair, I have to admit that Wiebe did the same tonight when challenged by Davidson after hitting weal. And Bell fought Fransoo, decision bell. 5 fights, Seamans lost a decision, Miller a tie with Negieum, Miller a decision over Mitchell and ferland a decision over #55, no blow out fights. Refs were brutal in 1st period, giving phantom calls both ways. And they waved off Glennies goal that would have made it 10, the ref knew he blew the whistle too early but there was no turning back, good job it wasn't a close game.

Not sure if you saw it at the game, but it looked(and sounded) like Mitchell grabbed Miller(mitchell was on the bench) after that big hit that caused Millers first fight. thats why they squared off in the 3rd. Wondering if there is a suspension for that?

All the fights were pretty even, the Miller v Mitchell and Ferland v Bidveleski fights were pretty good scraps, both landing lots, and throwing lots. Liked Ferland and Bidveleski taking each others helmets off before they started chucking too.

[Joe Hallenback]

He looked like he was just going through the motions. The Pats have Weal, Mitchell and Davidson, that's it. hard to believe that we're already better than them even though we're a year behind in the rebuild stakes....

Hey they would have had Fransoo,Seaman,Swryipa,Conroy and our 1st,2nd last year and 1st this year for Eberle and Teubert

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

not to deflate everyones future expectations here, but I think this current hot streak can be more attributed to Stone's(and to a lesser degree Ferland's) emergence, along with this Mackay guy coming out of nowhere scoring 2 points a game. That being said, the wheats are still better than the pats along with being younger.

...but we will see how things look after Lang has had more than a year with this team. He wouldnt have made the same mistake with Eberle, thats for sure.

And if there is any bright side to getting our asses kicked tonight, it was that the pats lost no ground for the 8th spot. **Just a reminder that some of us are apparently still dreaming, and dont want to be woke up yet.**

[sbtatter]

not to deflate everyones future expectations here, but I think this current hot streak can be more attributed to Stone's(and to a lesser degree Ferland's) emergence, along with this Mackay guy coming out of nowhere scoring 2 points a game. That being said, the wheats are still better than the pats along with being younger.

...but we will see how things look after Lang has had more than a year with this team. He wouldnt have made the same mistake with Eberle, thats for sure.

And if there is any bright side to getting our asses kicked tonight, it was that the pats lost no ground for the 8th spot. **Just a reminder that some of us are apparently still dreaming, and dont want to be woke up yet.**

And at least the Pats had some compete, unlike Swifty last week. Weal had his helmet off for the anthem and he's getting a bit of a fro!!!!

[Allin44]

not to deflate everyones future expectations here, but I think this current hot streak can be more attributed to Stone's emergence, along with this Mackay guy coming out of nowhere scoring 2 points a game. That being said, the wheats are still better than the pats along with being younger.

...but we will see how things look after Lang has had more than a year with this team. He wouldnt have made the same mistake with Eberle, thats for sure.

And if there is any bright side to getting our asses kicked tonight, it was that the pats lost no ground for the 8th spot. **Just a reminder that some of us are apparently still dreaming, and dont want to be woke up yet.**

Its junior hockey, anything can happen. Aside from the Saskatoon games you have a pretty decent schedule no real bottom feeders, but you avoid Red Deer and Kooteany, and who knows, by the time you play Saskatoon they might have the league wrapped up already and rest Schenn, Hamilton, Trask, Elliot.

[Joe Hallenback]

I actually thought Hewitt was pretty good. He really kept the pats in the game early on. Brandon has been shelling everyone lately so its not so bad

I am not sure about the Pats next some guys have to step up. Your 93's don't seem that good up front. Martel,Moser, and Oullette are okay but nothing special. I like both Stephenson's for different reasons. Is Mitchell coming back next year or is he signed? I know Davidson will be in the AHL for the Oilers.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

Mitchell should be back, and I think Davidson will be back too. Kid could benefit from playoff experience next year(wherever that might be), and its only his 2nd year in the league. Also, I think Edmonton has an extra year to sign him being that he was drafted late. That being said, I think he's good enough for the A right now, even in the oiler's deep prospect system.

And we will see how the '93s do. I really like Moser's game, and Martell is a smart player who had a really first few games.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

im starting to think thats going to be it for our playoff chances. PA and Brandon have pulled too far away.

But unlike last year at least we can say the future looks better. Maybe we will see Lang bring in Klimchuk for a few games, or maybe even Mclean, and some BC prospects like Burrough or Dryden Hunt who has had a good year.