Next Year

[puckluck]

Just looking at the cupboards, to see how they are stocked. Looking at who has played, and what we received in the eakin deal. and who will be knocking on the door. Please submit your input.

Here it is

20's

Peddle, Hutt, Vause, Hoban, Wagner, Verdino. Who stays, who go's?


Returning guys, Forwards
Magnus, Howorko, Bruce, Cameron, Lowry, Blanke, Bloom, Derko, Black. Do we trade any of these guys away?

Defensemen

Reum, Muth, Evans, Craig, Scarlett, Nedomlel, Aasman. Trades?

Goalies

Smith, Tendler. Do we need help in this department?


Players on the horizon

Zentner- grinder or goal scorer?
Cave- playmaker or goal scorer?
Mackay- a bit of everything!
Gordon - playmaker or goal scorer
Hopkins- grinder?
Olson- goal scorer
Heatherington - the real deal!
Clark- ?
Zinkan - another year of midget?

(am I missing anyone)

Let me know your thoughts. lets see what nextyear will look like.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

that richardson kid will at least be at camp. Who knows if he is ready to play though, with his size?

for your 20s, Id keep Wagner for sure. Vause seems like a good player and team guy so with him that makes two...and normally Id suggest Verdino but I keep hearing that he isnt popular with the rest of the team, so if thats the case trade for another defenceman(OA, or a 19)

Though I wouldnt rule out Peddle, or Hutt if he comes to camp motivated. Hoban to me seems like he is more valuable to trade than to the team, while Hutt is the opposite and has next to no value...though he is capable of putting up 30 on his 'A' game. He is worth giving a shot, but you cant have too many shrimps as Lamb (should have) learned last year.

[lordstanley]

I would say keep Hoban and Vause, Vause is a heart and soul player i could see him being captain and trade for a dman

[Toswammi]

I can't see this team having a 20 defenseman this year. Even without Verdino there is still seven returning defensemen (Reum, Muth, Evans, Craig, Scarlett, Nedomlel, Aasman) plus Heatherington (who I think the teams wants in their top six next year). If anything I think that Aasman will be let go and maybe one of the 17's will be dealt to help in other areas.

Vause should be back IMO. I also like having one of Peddle/Wagner as I feel they could bring 15-20 goals when healthy. The other 20 spot will be filled outside the organizaton, or at least that is my feeling. Depending on how they feel about the tending situation that could be a hole filled with a 20?

One thing that I am expecting this offseason is a lot of movement with players. It would suprise me to see the team complete 4/5 trades prior to camp.

[2,5,andagame]

I hope they put Bloom & Black together then we could have the "Black & Bloom" line.

[Hockey Spy]

Speaking of a funny play on line combo's or dman pairings....

I was at a game in Prince Albert earlier this year and Siemens/Cox were a pairing and you can just guess what that PA fan said.

"HEY COX sucks SIEMENS" lol

imagine if Black and Bloom played with those guy.

"HEY COX sucks SIEMENS BLACK and BLOOM! lol

anyways, back to the hockey talk.:p

[Wrangler]

However the team is put together next yr, two things must happen, the team MUST be developed so that they are able to play as a TEAM all 20 players, regular shifts PP/PK etc., get rid of the "top six" crap & the chosen few BS. AND, Lamb, if he stays around, MUST either change his attitude & become a players coach (not swear & scream at the young players on the bench) OR MOVE ON!!!!. Remember we are going to be in a rebuilding mode & we need a coach who is able to manage and develope young players not bring them down.

Tenders: IMO we should get a seasoned player at least 19 Yr old, bring smith & Tendler back to camp & see who earns the spot as back up.

D-Men: Evans, Craig, Scarlet, Nedomiel & Muth. Craig & Scarlett however have to learn when not to pick their fights, NOT after the whistle. Verdino will be 20 in Oct this yr he should be worth something as a trade.

Forwards: This is a tough one, we have Hoban who turned 20 in Jan, Peddle, Hutt & Wagner in Mar/Apr & Vause in Oct. IMO, trade Hoban & Wagner, keep Peddle, Hutt & Vause they all play with heart & passion + Lowry for sure. Cameron & Magnus could make a difference, Derko looks to be getting additional ice time in the past month & Howorko gets a few shifts. Can't speak for either Aasman or Bruce haven't see enough of them this yr don't know why. Black will also enter in the mix. With positive coaching from a good WHL coach, (not Lamb) these young players could make a very positive impact to this team as they all play their asses off and play with heart & passion. Come spring & fall camps, look at what's comming our way with the Eaken trade & our first draft pick as our reward for comming in last in the league, & our other prospects ie MacKay, Richerson if he shows up, Heatherington & Cave ????.

Anyway my 2 cents for what it's worth. Have to get back to work now calving time $$$$$ LOL. Have a great summer everyone & stay dry. See you all in Sep. GO BRONCOS NEVER EVER SAY NEVER!!:brrr:

[SocnorB]

I would say keep Hoban and Vause, Vause is a heart and soul player i could see him being captain and trade for a dman

Amen!

[Flathead]

I would say keep Hoban and Vause, Vause is a heart and soul player i could see him being captain and trade for a dman

Hoban is way to soft and never goes into the dirty areas, he put up 51 points but also a very ugly -24!! I know alot of people would be very upset if he is one of our twenties next year.
Vause had an ok season, I guess i just expected a little more from him. I never thought he would be the type of player to take nights off, but he did this season and a lot of times i even had to check the line up to see if he was playing or not. I know he is capable of a better season and hope to see him as a twenty year old next year.
IMO, Peddle was the heart and soul of the team this year, from the drop of the puck to the final buzzer he gave 110% EVERY GAME! Crashes, bangs, kills penalties, goes into the dirty areas, blocks shots, can put up decent numbers, and will fight anyone.
I would also like to see Verdino back. He can get under the skin of the opposition, plays with a chip on his shoulder, and could provide some leadership. But I also keep hearing that he doesn't want to be here.
I really liked Wagner, but can we take a chance on him? Poor kid can't stay healthy!
So Peddle(next years Captain), Vause and Verdino. If Verdino doesn't want to stay here, trade for another 20 dman.

On another note, I like everything about Lambs coaching style except he does need to play all four lines a little more. I understand them not getting as much ice time as a first liner, but could be used a little more. Any team works that way, a Jody Shelley isn't going to get as much ice as Jeff Carter! Lol. I love that he shows emotion on the bench and talks to his players when they come off the ice.

[SocnorB]

Hoban is way to soft and never goes into the dirty areas, he put up 51 points but also a very ugly -24!! I know alot of people would be very upset if he is one of our twenties next year.
Vause had an ok season, I guess i just expected a little more from him. I never thought he would be the type of player to take nights off, but he did this season and a lot of times i even had to check the line up to see if he was playing or not. I know he is capable of a better season and hope to see him as a twenty year old next year.
IMO, Peddle was the heart and soul of the team this year, from the drop of the puck to the final buzzer he gave 110% EVERY GAME! Crashes, bangs, kills penalties, goes into the dirty areas, blocks shots, can put up decent numbers, and will fight anyone.
I would also like to see Verdino back. He can get under the skin of the opposition, plays with a chip on his shoulder, and could provide some leadership. But I also keep hearing that he doesn't want to be here.
I really liked Wagner, but can we take a chance on him? Poor kid can't stay healthy!
So Peddle(next years Captain), Vause and Verdino. If Verdino doesn't want to stay here, trade for another 20 dman.

On another note, I like everything about Lambs coaching style except he does need to play all four lines a little more. I understand them not getting as much ice time as a first liner, but could be used a little more. Any team works that way, a Jody Shelley isn't going to get as much ice as Jeff Carter! Lol. I love that he shows emotion on the bench and talks to his players when they come off the ice.

He needs to play his 4th line a little more. Are you kidding me? He hardly played his 3rd line. As for Hoban being soft, what do you want, a goal scorer or a banger that gets 10 pts a season. You very seldom see both traits in a player. How soft was Gretzky? Definately agree Peddle should be captain next year. Not bad for a player Lamb didn't play last year. Every coach talks to his players on the bench. Yes Chynoweth did too; he just didn't scream and shout at them; that was left for the locker room. All the fans that said Dean didn't talk to his players; must have watched him the whole 60 minutes I guess and not the game. I hardly think so. Bring in Lorne Frey as G.M. and let him bring in his own coach. I guess that is provided Lamb leaves.

[ointhecreek]

I love that he shows emotion on the bench and talks to his players when they come off the ice.

Show emotion, definately, but you don't need to scream and swear at the player. Not called for. We definately need a seperate GM(Frey) so the coach has someone to answer to.

[Flathead]

He needs to play his 4th line a little more. Are you kidding me? He hardly played his 3rd line. As for Hoban being soft, what do you want, a goal scorer or a banger that gets 10 pts a season. You very seldom see both traits in a player. How soft was Gretzky? Definately agree Peddle should be captain next year. Not bad for a player Lamb didn't play last year. Every coach talks to his players on the bench. Yes Chynoweth did too; he just didn't scream and shout at them; that was left for the locker room. All the fans that said Dean didn't talk to his players; must have watched him the whole 60 minutes I guess and not the game. I hardly think so. Bring in Lorne Frey as G.M. and let him bring in his own coach. I guess that is provided Lamb leaves.
Kidding me? Gretzky wouldn't have lasted in todays game, he couldn't of hid behind Semenko!! You can't even fairly use him as a comparision. Todays game is NOTHING like Gretzkys era. Take a look at todays NHLers, they all hit, get in the corners,go to the dirty areas and put up points. Heck even the Sedin sisters get in the corners, and along the boards, and work magic i might add! Ovechkin, Crosby, Carter, Stamkos, Perry, Toews, Iginla, etc...they all crash, bang and put up points! As for a banger that puts up ten points.............as long he's not a minus24, I'll take the ten points!
Chynoweth was a joke behind the bench! Good ol' cardboard cutout himself! Very smart hockey mind, but not a junior hockey coach. You have to talk to your players as they are coming off the ice, you can't save it till the locker room, it loses all impact if you dont bring it up right away. Swearing? Really? Ewww, not a swear word! Lol. Lamb is emotional, and will probablly swear. Maybe he needs to work on constructive critisism, but we've all seen McCrimmon lose it on a player on his bench and we don't see Brandon fans whining about Kelly yelling and screaming. Anyways Lamb is here to stay and is a good coach that the kids like playing for.

[ointhecreek]

Kidding me?Swearing? Really? Ewww, not a swear word! Lol. Lamb is emotional, and will probablly swear. Maybe he needs to work on constructive critisism, but we've all seen McCrimmon lose it on a player on his bench and we don't see Brandon fans whining about Kelly yelling and screaming. Anyways Lamb is here to stay and is a good coach that the kids like playing for.

It's not so much the swear words he uses, I'm sure all the players use them themselves, it's how he uses them with 16 and 17 y/o kids. When a head coach starts calling them fffinng idiots it's just wrong . This isn't a beer league for that kind of criticism. If Lambchops is here to stay, expect more emty seats and the team gone within 5 years max.

[SocnorB]

Kidding me? Gretzky wouldn't have lasted in todays game, he couldn't of hid behind Semenko!! You can't even fairly use him as a comparision. Todays game is NOTHING like Gretzkys era. Take a look at todays NHLers, they all hit, get in the corners,go to the dirty areas and put up points. Heck even the Sedin sisters get in the corners, and along the boards, and work magic i might add! Ovechkin, Crosby, Carter, Stamkos, Perry, Toews, Iginla, etc...they all crash, bang and put up points! As for a banger that puts up ten points.............as long he's not a minus24, I'll take the ten points!
Chynoweth was a joke behind the bench! Good ol' cardboard cutout himself! Very smart hockey mind, but not a junior hockey coach. You have to talk to your players as they are coming off the ice, you can't save it till the locker room, it loses all impact if you dont bring it up right away. Swearing? Really? Ewww, not a swear word! Lol. Lamb is emotional, and will probablly swear. Maybe he needs to work on constructive critisism, but we've all seen McCrimmon lose it on a player on his bench and we don't see Brandon fans whining about Kelly yelling and screaming. Anyways Lamb is here to stay and is a good coach that the kids like playing for.

FYI, he did talk to the kids as they came off the bench.[/QUOTE] I don't know what games you were watching, unless you spent the whole game watching the coach. Todd McClellan never lost it on the bench, but lost it in the dressing room[/QUOTE] Where is he now? Somewhere Lamb will never be; headcoach in the NHL. But of course I didn't spend 60 minutes of the game watching what lamb does on the bench. How could anyone on the 3rd or 4th line enjoy playing for Lamb!

[SocnorB]

FYI, he did talk to the kids as they came off the bench. I don't know what games you were watching, unless you spent the whole game watching the coach. Todd McClellan never lost it on the bench, but lost it in the dressing room[/QUOTE] Where is he now? Somewhere Lamb will never be; headcoach in the NHL. But of course I didn't spend 60 minutes of the game watching what lamb does on the bench. How could anyone on the 3rd or 4th line enjoy playing for Lamb![/QUOTE]

One other thing. Who wasn't a minus on this team?

[trucker]

Kidding me? Gretzky wouldn't have lasted in todays game, he couldn't of hid behind Semenko!! You can't even fairly use him as a comparision. Todays game is NOTHING like Gretzkys era. Take a look at todays NHLers, they all hit, get in the corners,go to the dirty areas and put up points. Heck even the Sedin sisters get in the corners, and along the boards, and work magic i might add! Ovechkin, Crosby, Carter, Stamkos, Perry, Toews, Iginla, etc...they all crash, bang and put up points! As for a banger that puts up ten points.............as long he's not a minus24, I'll take the ten points!
Chynoweth was a joke behind the bench! Good ol' cardboard cutout himself! Very smart hockey mind, but not a junior hockey coach. You have to talk to your players as they are coming off the ice, you can't save it till the locker room, it loses all impact if you dont bring it up right away. Swearing? Really? Ewww, not a swear word! Lol. Lamb is emotional, and will probablly swear. Maybe he needs to work on constructive critisism, but we've all seen McCrimmon lose it on a player on his bench and we don't see Brandon fans whining about Kelly yelling and screaming. Anyways Lamb is here to stay and is a good coach that the kids like playing for.

How do you know the kids like playing for him? Not mocking you, but it sure doesn't look like it on the ice!! Please tell me!! As a fan of the Broncos I think it would be a huge mistake to keep Lamb here!! He has completely lost public opinion and will be impossible for him to prove otherwise! I agree, if he stays, the Broncos will be gone!!! The board is gonna have to listen to the fans on this one and show us they care for "our" team too!

[SocnorB]

How do you know the kids like playing for him? Not mocking you, but it sure doesn't look like it on the ice!! Please tell me!! As a fan of the Broncos I think it would be a huge mistake to keep Lamb here!! He has completely lost public opinion and will be impossible for him to prove otherwise! I agree, if he stays, the Broncos will be gone!!! The board is gonna have to listen to the fans on this one and show us they care for "our" team too!

Apparently one of the board members was heard saying; we have got to fix this thing. Doesn't sound like a real good endorsement for Lamb. We had better right this and right it soon or there will be no WHL in Swift. Sooner or later they will have to admit thet made a mistake; let's hope it is sooner!

[Flathead]

I don't know what games you were watching, unless you spent the whole game watching the coach. Todd McClellan never lost it on the bench, but lost it in the dressing room Where is he now? Somewhere Lamb will never be; headcoach in the NHL. But of course I didn't spend 60 minutes of the game watching what lamb does on the bench. How could anyone on the 3rd or 4th line enjoy playing for Lamb![/QUOTE]

One other thing. Who wasn't a minus on this team?[/QUOTE]

McClellan did talk to his players as they came off the ice. Like a real coach does. He doesn't save everything for the dressing room.
The only movement you got from Dean, was him pushing up his glasses. When Dean was here I did spend a lot of time watching him, you could have literally put a cardboard cut out of himself behind the bench and no one would have known any different! And Dean will never be a head coach in the NHL either.
The Broncos will not be gone, we fought to hard to get them here, I'm sure the same fight will be put up to keep them here. We are all hardcore hockey fans on this forum and win or lose we will all be at the rink regardless of all the idle threats.
When Dean was here and we were losing it was all the same,"fire the coach.....raa raa raw!" now different coach same thing from all the same people. Lamb will fine, give him time to make his team not Deans leftovers.

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

Kidding me? Gretzky wouldn't have lasted in todays game, he couldn't of hid behind Semenko!!

Im not the most venerable or seasoned fan, and i know its a little off topic but Gretzky was a genius on the ice. If the players today can do succeed, then certainly the great one would be able to adapt and excel especially since this new game that is tailor made for shrimps on the powerplay, and all the added emphasis on offence.

[Flathead]

Im not the most venerable or seasoned fan, and i know its a little off topic but Gretzky was a genius on the ice. If the players today can do succeed, then certainly the great one would be able to adapt and excel especially since this new game that is tailor made for shrimps on the powerplay, and all the added emphasis on offence.

Instigator rule and head shots, he wouldn't of lasted as long as Crosby has, not a chance!

[Toswammi]

Well looking forward to future years, the Broncos have officially landed the 2nd pick in this years draft (lets hope it turns out better then Wudrick). SC also has the 13th pick (I believe) and of course the 24th pick (in the 2nd round) so we should be able to really stock the cupboards with some high quality talent. I have high expectations with the scouting staff to get some WHL talent, especially with three of the top twenty-four picks.

[Quarter Century Fan]

With the number of high picks the Broncos now have it would be nice to do a rebuild to make a run at a championship in a few years. (It's unrealistic to believe we could be a contender for at least 2-3 years in my opinion)
I have heard fans talk about our team needs to be good each year in order to keep fans in the seats but such a strategy keeps you from ever having a powerhouse team.
I think the fans extend some positive goodwill for a few years when they have had a first place contending team and understand there is a cycle of rebuilding for such a team.

I am tired of mediocre hockey year after year...let's get a contender!!:groovy:

[Toswammi]

With the number of high picks the Broncos now have it would be nice to do a rebuild to make a run at a championship in a few years. (It's unrealistic to believe we could be a contender for at least 2-3 years in my opinion)
I have heard fans talk about our team needs to be good each year in order to keep fans in the seats but such a strategy keeps you from ever having a powerhouse team.
I think the fans extend some positive goodwill for a few years when they have had a first place contending team and understand there is a cycle of rebuilding for such a team.

I am tired of mediocre hockey year after year...let's get a contender!!:groovy:

I think with a solid scouting staff you can be in the hunt every year. Look at the Med Hat's, Calgary (save this year), Vancouver or even Brandon. It is possible if you can find late round gems in every draft.

[SocnorB]

Well looking forward to future years, the Broncos have officially landed the 2nd pick in this years draft (lets hope it turns out better then Wudrick). SC also has the 13th pick (I believe) and of course the 24th pick (in the 2nd round) so we should be able to really stock the cupboards with some high quality talent. I have high expectations with the scouting staff to get some WHL talent, especially with three of the top twenty-four picks.

Remember our scouts records from previous drafts. Don't hold your breath!

[SocnorB]

I think with a solid scouting staff you can be in the hunt every year. Look at the Med Hat's, Calgary (save this year), Vancouver or even Brandon. It is possible if you can find late round gems in every draft.

We can't even find gems in the first round let alone in the later rounds. We need a G.M. that knows the league and a director of scouting with a proven track record; something we have not had in eons.

[Toswammi]

If Mullins podcast is any indication the team is looking at picking up a Euro tender in the import draft.

[CrazyGeorge]

When is our first pick in the euro draft? I take it we'll just be picking one euro. Too bad ortio wouldn't report to Swift Current eh?

[Toswammi]

When is our first pick in the euro draft? I take it we'll just be picking one euro. Too bad ortio wouldn't report to Swift Current eh?

I think sixth overall.

[TourettesGuy]

I think Richardson will go to camp, hope he plays for Swift Current, kids potential is definetly there, I think he can develop quicker in the WHL then the NCAA.

[hockeyfan123]

Here are the 20 year olds I think the Broncos will keep:

Vause
Hoban
Verdino

I cant see Peddle making the team... As much as I like Peddle, I cant see the team keeping 3 20 year old forwards with the young depth we have on forward.. I think the team will want to develop some of the young forwards and having 3 overage forwards I cant see working...

[Quarter Pounder W/ Cheese]

I would much sooner keep Peddle over Hoban. At least he brings a full effort each game and doesn't look like he's taking a nap while on the ice.

[d-man]

Here are the 20 year olds I think the Broncos will keep:

Vause
Hoban
Verdino

I cant see Peddle making the team... As much as I like Peddle, I cant see the team keeping 3 20 year old forwards with the young depth we have on forward.. I think the team will want to develop some of the young forwards and having 3 overage forwards I cant see working...

To Lamb young depth = riding the bench. He'll go with 3 forwards.

[ol' skool]

I don't see verdino staying as there is a log jam on our back end already plus Heatherington will have a spot as well. I agree with not wanting Hoban back as well. His defensive play is terrible which isn't really good when you are trying to be a leader on a young team. Plus he is the softest player in the entire whl.

[mjw22]

I thought Lamb would've been gone by now. Sometimes these old school guys are just out of touch with how kids need to be coached these days.