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Ott
05-05-2012, 05:15 AM
The Pipeline show blog yesterday said Clouston could be on his way out of Brandon, thoughts? I wondering if it may be true because you never see Clouston doing "community" things like the Asst Coaches do. I noticed its the Asst Coaches who always did the youth camps during the season and are scheduled for the summer youth camp. It was them doing McHappy Days. Rumour had it in Ott he wasn't a people person maybe its true. The Blog also mentioned the Ice could be looking for a head coach, wonder if he'd move back there.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-13-2012, 11:32 AM
The Pipeline show blog yesterday said Clouston could be on his way out of Brandon, thoughts? I wondering if it may be true because you never see Clouston doing "community" things like the Asst Coaches do. I noticed its the Asst Coaches who always did the youth camps during the season and are scheduled for the summer youth camp. It was them doing McHappy Days. Rumour had it in Ott he wasn't a people person maybe its true. The Blog also mentioned the Ice could be looking for a head coach, wonder if he'd move back there.

and KM searches for another experienced HC, I would love to see Brad Truitt land here. He was released from his AC job in the AHL this spring and is available. Brad was an assistant under Marc Habschield in Kelowna when they won the Mem Cup, and the was HC when they won the league title against us the following year. But, again, he would not likely be here for a very long term.

I agree, Clouston doesn't seem to be the outgoing type. I believe he will take a job in the pros at some level next year. Something just never seemed to jive with him. He seems to be more of a strategist than a people person. In junior, you need to be both.

Ott
05-14-2012, 11:19 AM
Hey, I'm not in the area and too cheap to pay for the Sun on line, what's been going on between Clouston and KM? If they are on different pages as Luber mentioned could be the case, why is CC staying? Sounds like CC should just leave the Coaching ranks he seems to have burned bridges lately. Sad, at once he was suppose to have a promising career in front of him, oh well always another young hot shot to set in.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-14-2012, 04:05 PM
Hey, I'm not in the area and too cheap to pay for the Sun on line, what's been going on between Clouston and KM? If they are on different pages as Luber mentioned could be the case, why is CC staying? Sounds like CC should just leave the Coaching ranks he seems to have burned bridges lately. Sad, at once he was suppose to have a promising career in front of him, oh well always another young hot shot to set in.

He seems he would be a great asst. coach in the AHL or NHL. As I've said before, great at strategy, but lacks people management skills. If he does leave, it would not surprise me if Dwayne Gylowoychuk was promoted to head coach.

WHLFANMAN
05-15-2012, 11:23 AM
He seems he would be a great asst. coach in the AHL or NHL. As I've said before, great at strategy, but lacks people management skills. If he does leave, it would not surprise me if Dwayne Gylowoychuk was promoted to head coach.

CC is gone. BWK web site.

Joe Hallenback
05-15-2012, 12:00 PM
Yep looks like KM had enough and decided to change it up. Talked with a few players last week and they knew this was going to happen. They hated playing for the guy. Sounded like he wouldn't talk to players off the ice at all. Not sure what that is about but you have to be able to mentor these young men.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-15-2012, 01:52 PM
Yep looks like KM had enough and decided to change it up. Talked with a few players last week and they knew this was going to happen. They hated playing for the guy. Sounded like he wouldn't talk to players off the ice at all. Not sure what that is about but you have to be able to mentor these young men.

ou hit it right on the head. You have to be a teacher. When word of dissention came out last year, I thought people were just overreacting to the slump. But yes, he failed miserably at endearing himself to anyone.

Brad Truitt, I hope, will get some consideration. He was a great mentor in Kelowna to guys like Shea Weber and Luke Schenn. It will be an interesting summer awaiting news on his replacement.

Johnny Table
05-15-2012, 02:57 PM
ou hit it right on the head. You have to be a teacher. When word of dissention came out last year, I thought people were just overreacting to the slump. But yes, he failed miserably at endearing himself to anyone.

Brad Truitt, I hope, will get some consideration. He was a great mentor in Kelowna to guys like Shea Weber and Luke Schenn. It will be an interesting summer awaiting news on his replacement.

Why do you keep talking about this brad guy? TRY JEFF

Ott
05-15-2012, 03:12 PM
I feel bad for the guy, he probably doesn't even get what he's doing wrong but his once promising career had dwindled quickly. For his sake, I hope he see his faults soon and has a chance to regain his career. He wasn't bad in Kootney from what I'ver read. Not too be too much a chick, but I really feel bad for wife and kid. Poor kid has had to find a new school and new hockey team how many times now.

booboo
05-15-2012, 04:15 PM
I would hope that with a young team this coming season that Kelly Mc would hire someone like Hunchak or Truitt and NOT Glow-woy chuck. I think is better off managing the team instead of coaching.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-15-2012, 10:46 PM
I would hope that with a young team this coming season that Kelly Mc would hire someone like Hunchak or Truitt and NOT Glow-woy chuck. I think is better off managing the team instead of coaching.

Not a huge fan of Hunchak, but saw first hand what Truitt is capable of doing with young players. He tops my wishlist. But at this point, cutting ties with Clouston was beyond necessary. The year that might have been.

Rye
05-15-2012, 10:47 PM
Yep looks like KM had enough and decided to change it up. Talked with a few players last week and they knew this was going to happen. They hated playing for the guy. Sounded like he wouldn't talk to players off the ice at all. Not sure what that is about but you have to be able to mentor these young men.

Who did you talk to? No one knew this was going to happen until today. And be fair to Clouston, he wasn't that bad, he talked to the players. Maybe not as often as other coaches, I don't know because I wasn't there but to say he didn't talk to players at all is false.

It's true some of the boys didn't buy into his coaching strategies, the evidence was on the ice and apparently there has been internal issues with Clouston and Crim as per the Brandon papers? Either way, I wouldn't be real surprised if Kelly was back behind the bench but there's lots of time to find a coach so we'll see.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-15-2012, 10:50 PM
Why do you keep talking about this brad guy? TRY JEFF

I stand corrected....lol. my bad.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-15-2012, 10:53 PM
Who did you talk to? No one knew this was going to happen until today. And be fair to Clouston, he wasn't that bad, he talked to the players. Maybe not as often as other coaches, I don't know because I wasn't there but to say he didn't talk to players at all is false.

It's true some of the boys didn't buy into his coaching strategies, the evidence was on the ice and apparently there has been internal issues with Clouston and Crim as per the Brandon papers? Either way, I wouldn't be real surprised if Kelly was back behind the bench but there's lots of time to find a coach so we'll see.

Bruce put on his blog about his lack of communication with the players. And he is there alot. I will take his word from the inside before that of most anyone else. Not saying this in a crass way, but Luber travels with and covers them all season. He is where most Wheat Kings news gets to before we hear it.

Rye
05-15-2012, 11:04 PM
I know who he is, I'm just correcting the statement that he doesn't talk to the players at all.

And as far as news goes, he's usually pretty good but I found it funny he included 'apparently' in his piece on Boesy. Classic haha.

patsdude114
05-16-2012, 12:11 AM
getting rid of Clouston comes at no surprise at all, with the talent level the Wheat Kings had this year they should of finished no less then 4th & they should of had that wrapped up before March... Clouston has under-acheived in his last 2 coaching jobs i dont see many taking a chance on him anymore to be honest

WHLFANMAN
05-16-2012, 09:15 AM
Who did you talk to? No one knew this was going to happen until today. And be fair to Clouston, he wasn't that bad, he talked to the players. Maybe not as often as other coaches, I don't know because I wasn't there but to say he didn't talk to players at all is false.

It's true some of the boys didn't buy into his coaching strategies, the evidence was on the ice and apparently there has been internal issues with Clouston and Crim as per the Brandon papers? Either way, I wouldn't be real surprised if Kelly was back behind the bench but there's lots of time to find a coach so we'll see.

I think anyone close to the team did know this "had" to happen. I've also talked to some players, willing to say a little more with season over and I willing to ask some questions I wouldn't during the season, CC was the most negative "Person" the've ever met and there were some players he didn't speak to at all the entire season! Stop asking who was talked to. You can take it for what it's worth!;) There's a Huge difference between "Tough" and "Negative"!

Ott
05-16-2012, 11:35 AM
See I knew Stone was the start of Clouston down fall. Guess Stone brought his "Sens Hate" of Clouston with him after training camp. Bet CC sorry he wrote such a nice email about him to the Sens after the season was over. Oh well, time to move on for everyone.:mad:

wheatiesfan
05-16-2012, 11:54 AM
See I knew Stone was the start of Clouston down fall. Guess Stone brought his "Sens Hate" of Clouston with him after training camp. Bet CC sorry he wrote such a nice email about him to the Sens after the season was over. Oh well, time to move on for everyone.:mad:

I have seen your take on Stone all year and I couldn't disagree more. I've met the kid a few times and he is the last guy I would characterise as being a prima donna or trouble maker. I think you are off the mark if you think he is.

Joe Hallenback
05-16-2012, 11:57 AM
Stone was not one of the guys who disliked CC. I actually think he was one of the few guys who did like him


If you were 16 or 17 the guy wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire. The guys I talked to said he had little to no time for any of the younger guys.

Ott
05-16-2012, 01:00 PM
I have seen your take on Stone all year and I couldn't disagree more. I've met the kid a few times and he is the last guy I would characterise as being a prima donna or trouble maker. I think you are off the mark if you think he is.

Guess, I'm guilty of what I've accused Stone of being influence by Ott. I follow too many Ott fans who are just loving this and making Stone a hero for taking Clouston down (again). For some reason, Ott fans like to see ex players and coaches fail and love to broadcast it when they do. Personally, I was hoping CC would do well and it's sad as I mentioned that he seems to have a chip on his shoulder. Still think it has to do with him not playing the game, it seems to be a big issue these days. Which I don't get because Bowman or Babcock never played at a high level and they're great coaches. Maybe Clouston will get lucky to mentor under a Coach like that to him him get over it.

sbtatter
05-16-2012, 04:13 PM
It would be a real coup if we landed Dave Lowry (dream on, right!)
Maybe Kuzcek will be back now there's a new coach?

olwpgjet
05-16-2012, 05:54 PM
It would be a real coup if we landed Dave Lowry (dream on, right!)
Maybe Kuzcek will be back now there's a new coach?
There was an article in Bdn. Sun about Kuzcek planning to come back and about him rehabbing a knee that kept him out last part of season. Although , he would have been in tough to get any playing time even with a good knee/

The Wheatiemaniac
05-16-2012, 06:54 PM
There was an article in Bdn. Sun about Kuzcek planning to come back and about him rehabbing a knee that kept him out last part of season. Although , he would have been in tough to get any playing time even with a good knee/

I really hope this kid stays with us. When Klarc Wilson embarrassed Miller on home ice in a fight, everyone said how Wilson was such a tough guy. Then, 2 weeks later in Edmonton, Wilson challenged Kuczek and Dylan administered a first class beat down on Mr. Wilson. Now granted, Wilson is without a doubt a premier tough guy. And for Dylan to go toe to toe with him and take him down the way he did shows he can answer the bell for his team when need be.

He is also a great skater. With regular playing time, I think he could really be a solid D man in the Dub. He's a gamer who seems to have a grasp on discipline. I would take him over Miller. Ryley has good spirts but shows he can't stay disciplined. time to give the ice time to develop the young guys. Besides, we need OA forwards this year to help the young guys bridge the gap.

Rye
05-16-2012, 06:58 PM
I think anyone close to the team did know this "had" to happen. I've also talked to some players, willing to say a little more with season over and I willing to ask some questions I wouldn't during the season, CC was the most negative "Person" the've ever met and there were some players he didn't speak to at all the entire season! Stop asking who was talked to. You can take it for what it's worth!;) There's a Huge difference between "Tough" and "Negative"!

I will take it for what it's worth. There has been a few times where people have 'claimed' to talk to someone only to report false information on here. I'm not saying you have, I'm just trying to be fair to the truth for anyone willing to listen. I have asked those questions as well and the fact is a lot of the guys have different feelings about Clouston. Some guys liked him, and many didn't, including Luber obviously. I'm not saying they should have kept him, I agree with Kelly letting him go because obviously it wasn't working out.

It's silly to say he got let go because of this reason or that reason because quite honestly it doesn't matter at this point. I really don't like Luber's blog about it because he doesn't even know what's going on right now. That blog is so negative. It's clear that Luber doesn't like him and he threw him under the bus. If it should have been released why he was let go, Kelly would have done it.

The Wheatiemaniac
05-16-2012, 07:14 PM
I will take it for what it's worth. There has been a few times where people have 'claimed' to talk to someone only to report false information on here. I'm not saying you have, I'm just trying to be fair to the truth for anyone willing to listen. I have asked those questions as well and the fact is a lot of the guys have different feelings about Clouston. Some guys liked him, and many didn't, including Luber obviously. I'm not saying they should have kept him, I agree with Kelly letting him go because obviously it wasn't working out.

It's silly to say he got let go because of this reason or that reason because quite honestly it doesn't matter at this point. I really don't like Luber's blog about it because he doesn't even know what's going on right now. That blog is so negative. It's clear that Luber doesn't like him and he threw him under the bus. If it should have been released why he was let go, Kelly would have done it.

The reason KM gave was due to the possibility of Clouston getting a pro job later this summer and getting caught without a head coach after the premier candidates have all been hired elsewhere. Smart business move by Kelly.

The fact is, everyone can speculate all they want. Clouston is no longer the coach of the Wheat Kings. The reasons why no longer matter.

WHLFANMAN
05-17-2012, 03:26 PM
The reason KM gave was due to the possibility of Clouston getting a pro job later this summer and getting caught without a head coach after the premier candidates have all been hired elsewhere. Smart business move by Kelly.

The fact is, everyone can speculate all they want. Clouston is no longer the coach of the Wheat Kings. The reasons why no longer matter.

Agreed! :clap:

mjw22
05-17-2012, 10:15 PM
No big loss for WK or league . the guy needs an attitude adjustment :)

Balgonie
05-29-2012, 09:17 PM
How about Knoblauch? The guy is a proven winner in only the two seaons he was head coach of the Ice.

ELL
05-30-2012, 05:11 PM
Knoblauch would be a hell of an addition. However Kelly has an overrated opinion of his own coching abilities and will most likely take over again.

booboo
05-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Knoblauch would be a hell of an addition. However Kelly has an overrated opinion of his own coching abilities and will most likely take over again.

I agree that he is a far better Gm than a coach, but I don't see him him hiring another coach unless Clouston takes another job and his salary is off the books.

Trevor
05-31-2012, 06:31 AM
How about Knoblauch? The guy is a proven winner in only the two seaons he was head coach of the Ice.

I read somewhere else on here that he wants the U of A job.

SectionNDeserter
05-31-2012, 07:08 AM
I read somewhere else on here that he wants the U of A job.That job has already been filled.

The Wheatiemaniac
06-01-2012, 10:59 AM
Knoblauch would be a hell of an addition. However Kelly has an overrated opinion of his own coching abilities and will most likely take over again.

KM is going to wait for the full list of candidates to become available. If he can find a guy with a great track record who wants to play by KM's terms, my guess is he'll be the guy. But if KM decides that nobody wants to play under his terms, there are worse alternatives out there than Kelly retaking the back of the bench.

Guys like Knoblauch are available and would not be a horrible choice, or would he? We all jumped up and down clapping when Clouston hit town last year.

So I'll let KM decide who he wants to coach the Wheat Kings, and I'll just be a Wheat Kings fan like I've always been.

BLACK AND GOLD FOREVER!!!

WHLFANMAN
06-01-2012, 12:04 PM
KM is going to wait for the full list of candidates to become available. If he can find a guy with a great track record who wants to play by KM's terms, my guess is he'll be the guy. But if KM decides that nobody wants to play under his terms, there are worse alternatives out there than Kelly retaking the back of the bench.

Guys like Knoblauch are available and would not be a horrible choice, or would he? We all jumped up and down clapping when Clouston hit town last year.

So I'll let KM decide who he wants to coach the Wheat Kings, and I'll just be a Wheat Kings fan like I've always been.

BLACK AND GOLD FOREVER!!!

Very well put!;)

Ott
06-04-2012, 04:03 PM
Sadly, I think it's gonna have to be KM because I don't see Clouston getting a pro job for a couple reason. First he rep has taken a pretty bad beating in the past two years with the two firing. Secondly, I can see him sitting because he can taking a year off might work best for him and his family; it seem pretty obvious the he wasn't fired before he had a chance to quit and leave the team hanging. Rather because everyone wanted him gone, I could see him making the team and KM suffer.

WHLFANMAN
06-05-2012, 12:32 AM
Sadly, I think it's gonna have to be KM because I don't see Clouston getting a pro job for a couple reason. First he rep has taken a pretty bad beating in the past two years with the two firing. Secondly, I can see him sitting because he can taking a year off might work best for him and his family; it seem pretty obvious the he wasn't fired before he had a chance to quit and leave the team hanging. Rather because everyone wanted him gone, I could see him making the team and KM suffer.

I wouldn't say KM coaching would make he or the team suffer. But I would agree it would be in CC's nature to look at it that way.