2013 Training Camp

[patsdude114]

Full Training Camp Schedule (subject to change)



Wednesday, August 28th



5:00-6:00 p.m.

’97-’98 Born Players Registration


7:00-7:45 p.m.

On-Ice Session (‘97-‘98)


8:00-8:45 p.m.

On-Ice Session (’97-’98)



Thursday, August 29th




10:00-11:30 a.m.

Scrimmage (’97-’98)


11:45-12:30 p.m.

Goalie Session (’97-’98)


2:00-3:00 p.m.

’93-’96 Born Players Registration


4:00-5:30 p.m.

Scrimmage (’97-’98)


6:00-7:00 p.m.

On-Ice Session (’93-’96)


7:15-8:15 p.m.

On-Ice Session (’93-’96)



Friday, August 30th


9:00-10:30 a.m.

Scrimmage (’97-’98)


12:00-1:30 p.m.

Scrimmage


4:00-5:30 p.m.

Scrimmage


5:45-6:30 p.m.

Goalie Session


8:00-9:30 p.m.

Scrimmage



Saturday, August 31st


10:00-11:30 a.m.

Scrimmage


11:45-12:30 p.m.

Goalie Session


3:00-4:30 p.m.

Scrimmage


8:00-9:30 p.m.

Scrimmage


Sunday, September 1st
11:00-2:00 p.m. Blue and White Game





*lets try to keep all Training Camp comments in here*

I put the rookie camp on-ice sessions/scrimmages in RED & the vetern/main camp on-ice sessions/scrimmages in BLUE it may make it easier to see what you want to attend more simple (ok just adding Pats colors to post)

[patsdude114]

Does anyone know if Liam Finley came to camp? If he was there did he have a big growth spurt cause I didn't notice anyone real small out there besides Freadrich with the Pats listed or drafted players who get the Pats gear.

Also what number was Steel between the 2 rookie teams? I thought he would of been easy to spot with his smooth stride in skating & good hands with puck. Or is that Team Alberta Camp thing he was at not over yet?

Looking forward to tomorrow scrimmages where Reagan & Fulton can actually start using there size & strength. As well as Wagner & Kroker (sure spelt that wrong) also anyone know who that goalie was on the Grey Team with the Dark Blue pads? I thought that kid looked very smooth in the crease with some very good reflexes.

[RWAH]

Pats should have lineup sheets, or you will have to ask each parent in the stands who their player is and what #
was Eric Donald there or is he a 96?

were some nerves at the start but they settled quickly and was very up-tempo practise.

was impressed, there is a lot of talent in that group. # 15 red was picking corners and a hard shot

[nivek_wahs]

Does anyone know if Liam Finley came to camp? If he was there did he have a big growth spurt cause I didn't notice anyone real small out there besides Freadrich with the Pats listed or drafted players who get the Pats gear.
Doesn't look like Finlay is here. Greg Harder has the Rookie Camp roster up on his blog here (http://blogs.leaderpost.com/2013/08/28/pats-rookie-camp-roster-2/).

[nivek_wahs]

Pats should have lineup sheets, or you will have to ask each parent in the stands who their player is and what #Unless the team was waiting for all the players to show up and register it looks like the fans are back to guessing who's who on the ice.

Last year was awesome with the lineups that they gave out. I was impressed.


was Eric Donald there or is he a 96?A 96 birthdate.


was impressed, there is a lot of talent in that group.I agree with the talent comment but the unfortunate thing is that we may not get to see all the talent for a couple of years in many cases.

[nivek_wahs]

Rookie Camp Roster
As of August 28, 2013

FORWARDS
NAME HT WT HOMETOWN BORN LAST YEAR
Adam Berg 6-0 170 Calgary 2/4/97 Calgary (minor midget AAA)
Chase Brakel 5-8 140 Winnipeg 12/1/98 Winnipeg (bantam AAA)
Rykr Cole 5-10 175 Moosomin 4/29/97 Moose Jaw (midget AAA)
Jacob Elmer 5-11 140 Calgary 12/31/98 Edge (bantam AAA)
Colton Kroeker 6-1 160 Surrey, B.C. 1/21/97 Delta Academy (minor midget AAA)
Clay Lang 6-0 160 Killian, Alta. 1/29/97 Camrose (minor midget AAA)
Drew Litwin 5-10 150 Wynyard 2/28/97 Tisdale (midget AAA)
Jared McAmmond 6-0 190 Grande Prairie, Alta. 2/6/97 Grand Prairie (midget AAA)
Koal Roberts 5-10 155 Stockholm 7/2/97 Yorkton (midget AAA)
Keelan Saworski 5-9 180 Regina 5/15/98 Regina (bantam AA)
Luc Smith 6-3 185 Onoway, Alta. 1/20/98 Spruce Grove (bantam AAA)
Sam Steel 5-10 160 Sherwood Park, Alta. 2/3/98 Sherwood Park (bantam AAA)
Brady Third 6-1 167 Carlyle 6/18/98 Notre Dame (bantam AAA)
Austin Wagner 6-2 180 Calgary 6/23/97 Calgary (midget AAA)
Riley Woods 5-7 133 Regina 6/25/98 Regina (bantam AA)
Rylee Zimmer 6-1 160 Russell, Man. 3/8/97 Notre Dame (midget AAA)

DEFENCEMEN
NAME HT WT HOMETOWN BORN LAST YEAR
Mark Edmands 5-9 135 Regina 11/26/98 Regina (bantam AA)
Jared Freadrich 5-9 158 Camrose, Alta. 3/4/98 Camrose (bantam AAA)
Rob Fulton 6-3 198 Drayton Valley, Alta. 1/31/97 Camrose (midget AAA)
Chase Goods 5-8 155 Calgary 8/8/98 Calgary (bantam AAA)
James Hilsendager 5-11 173 Lloydminster 3/20/97 Lloyd (midget AAA)
Brendan Kallis 6-1 170 St. Albert, Alta. 5/18/97 St. Albert (midget AAA)
Ryan Krushen 6-1 170 Sherwood Park, Alta. 1/1/98 Sher. Park (bantam AAA)
Lyall Mitchell 6-3 205 Brandon, Man. 3/8/97 Southwest (midget AAA)
Sam MacBean 6-1 145 Calgary 1/18/98 Edge (bantam AAA)
Brady Pouteau 6-0 170 Oak Bluff, Man. 1/9/98 Pembina Valley (bantam AAA)
Brady Reagan 6-3 200 Calgary 8/14/97 UFA (midget AAA)
Liam Schioler 6-2 194 West St. Paul, Man. 1/24/98 Shattuck St. Mary’s (bantam AAA)

GOALTENDERS
NAME HT WT HOMETOWN BORN LAST YEAR
Mitchel Adamyk 6-1 170 East St. Paul, Man. 12/25/98 Winnipeg (bantam AAA)
Kurtis Chapman 6-0 165 Airdrie, Alta. 2/9/98 Airdrie (bantam AAA)
Troy Martyniuk 5-9 155 Winnipeg 8/14/97 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Nick Schneider 6-2 164 Leduc, Alta. 7/21/97 Spruce Grove (midget AAA)

[patsdude114]

That's a great sheet just 1 problem it doesn't help with who is who on each team. I'm going to be calling the Pats office and ask this question. What's the point in advertising on the website & such if we can't tell who is who

[Bepoleon]

Doesn't look like Finlay is here. Greg Harder has the Rookie Camp roster up on his blog here (http://blogs.leaderpost.com/2013/08/28/pats-rookie-camp-roster-2/).

He was a delight to watch at last years camp. I was really interested to see how much he developed over the year.

[patsdude114]

He was a delight to watch at last years camp. I was really interested to see how much he developed over the year.


I was looking forward to it as well he had fan favorite written all over him if he could crack the roster.

So #18 on red is Steel, #6 on red is Fulton, #5 on grey is Reagan, I think #2 on red is Kallis (opened 1st scrimmage with a huge hit on wall)

[RWAH]

all I can add is the tender with black and green pade is Martynuik..
Sat with Drew Litwin's dad at practise last night. Drew broke a vertibrea in his back last season and has worked with the EDM Oilers trainer to repair and strength his back and looked pretty good. Great shot and seems to plat in the dirty areas.

[patsdude114]

What number & color is he ? & figured out who all the goalies were once I had the lineup sheet that nivek posted.

I talked to Lang before the scrimmage & he said tomorrow there will be lineup sheets of who's who

[RWAH]

Litwin is 21 grey. I called the Pat office and suggested at the least a sheet on the wall and you could take a picture of or note the players you wanted to watch. Glad to hear there will be line ups shortly

[RWAH]

I am prety sure #2 red is James Hilsendager. Two parents in front of me were talking and I caught # 2 red first name was James but missed the lastname but he is the onlt James on the roster.

[patsdude114]

I'm not sure how many other people feel this way who have attended the rookie scrimmages but imo Steel is by far the best player between both age groups.

I had to agree with him he is more ready at age 15 then Brooks was at age 16 that says a lot for Steel's talent level

[patsdude114]

After watching the veterns on ice sessions tonight very few guys who weren't wearing Pats gear impressed me, they are definitely just fill in's til rookie camp is over & get some prospects into the mix.

The russian Dman (#11 on team white) did impress me tonight though, very big kid who skates very good. He even let go a couple big shots which I'm still thinking there is more behind it just took some off it since they were only drills tonight.

I'm not sure who #23 was on team blue, part of me was thinking maybe its the german kid as it seemed like the new assistant coach was getting ready to blow his whistle during a screw up on a drill & then realised who it was & let it go. Since he never came off the blue line & thought he was the next guy up but in reality he was actually suppose to be up that time.

I thought in the drills both Beukeboom & MacAuley looked good, both cover alot net. On the goalie front I'm guessing the goalie on Team Blue with the bright white pads was Gora, he didn't look out of place but will see how some scrimmages go.

One vetern who really stood out to me was Hunt during the drills, you can tell he worked hard all summer to get ready for another season. After last year he definately wants to put it behind him, I thought he was picking a lot of corners with his shots & every shot was fired hard.

[RWAH]

I did not get to tonight's ice sessions so thanks PD114. Any other posters thoughts would be appreciated

[nivek_wahs]

Main Camp Roster

FORWARDS
Dexter Bricker 5-10 176 Saskatoon 4/22/95 Nipawin (SJHL)
Adam Brooks 5-10 160 Winnipeg 5/6/96 Pats
Braden Christoffer 5-10 185 Sherwood Park, Alta. 8/2/94 Pats
Daylon Creasy 6-2 205 Cowberry, Man. 11/8/95 Southwest (midget AAA)
Patrick D’Amico 6-0 200 Winnipeg 11/4/94 Pats
Connor Gay 6-0 185 Saskatoon 5/4/95 Pats
Dryden Hunt 5-10 175 Nelson, B.C. 11/24/95 Pats
Maximilian Kammerer 6-0 175 Dusseldorf, Germany 9/28/96 EC Bad Tolz (Germany Div. 3)
Morgan Klimchuk 5-11 180Calgary 3/2/95 Pats
Nakehko Lamothe 6-3 200 Edmonton 2/26/95 K of C (midget AAA)
Braydon MacDonald 5-11 190 Stonewall, Man. 1/14/95 Swan Valley (Man. Jr. A)
Geordie Maguire 6-0 165 Winnipeg 4/17/95 Brandon (WHL)
Marc McCoy6-2 192 Edmonton 5/31/94 Pats
Jesse Miller 6-2 190 Winnipeg 3/17/94 Red Deer (WHL)
Kyler Nachtigall 5-11 162 Calgary 12/11/96 Calgary (midget AAA)
Lane Olsen 5-8 145 Taber, Alta. 2/14/95 Notre Dame (midget AAA)
Bryar Ortynski 6-1 172 Edmonton 1/5/96 Pats
Trent Ouellette 6-0 163 Drumheller, Alta. 3/31/93 Pats
Jack Rodewald 6-1 172 Winnipeg 2/2/94 Pats
Carson Samoridny 6-3 205 St. Albert, Alta. 6/24/94 Pats
Dane Schioler 6-0 160 Winnipeg 4/12/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Hayden Schwarz 6-2 175 Minot, N.D. 3/3/96 Minot (high school)
Chandler Stephenson 5-11 191 Saskatoon 4/22/94 Pats
Dyson Stevenson 6-0 160 Shaunavon 7/15/93 Pats

DEFENCEMEN
Sean Buchanan 6-2 190 Victoria, B.C. 11/12/96 South Island (B.C. major midget)
Kyle Burroughs 5-11 173 Langley, B.C. 7/12/95 Pats
Tom Dakers 6-2 215 Victoria, B.C. 3/1/96 Saanich (B.C. junior B)
Luke Fenske 6-1 209 Penticton, B.C. 5/23/93 Pats
Kendall Fransoo 6-1 165 North Battleford 6/1/96 North Battleford (SJHL)
Stephen Hak 6-1 187 Winnipeg 2/1/94 Pats
Tye Hand 6-3 190 Yellowknife, NWT 6/14/95 Pats
Chase Harrison 5-11 155 Winnipeg 10/11/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Darian Henry 6-5 185 Strathmore, Alta. 8/4/94 Pats
Cole Jones 6-1 197 Oakbank, Man. 1/4/96 Eastman (midget AAA)
Tyler Leicht 6-1 180 Grande Prairie, Alta. 6/20/96 Grande Prairie (midget AAA)
Griffin Mumby 6-0 178 Calgary 3/11/96 Pats
Kade Pilton 6-5 190 Parksville, B.C. 11/8/94 Pats
Dmitry Sinitsyn 6-2 205 Moscow, Russia 6/17/94 U-Mass-Lowell (NCAA)
Sean Whelan 6-1 190 Moose Jaw 2/11/94 Pats
Liam Watson 6-2 205 Edmonton 8/30/96 SSAC (midget AAA)
Colby Williams 5-11 180 Regina 1/26/95 Pats

GOALTENDERS
Adam Beukeboom 5-11 177 Sundre, Alta. 7/26/94 Drumheller (AJHL)
Patrick Gora 5-10 180 St. Albert, Alta. 2/1/96 St. Albert (midget AAA)
Anthony Hamill 6-3 185 Red Deer 4/9/95 Fort Sask (midget AAA)
Dawson MacAuley 6-5 212 Prince Albert 5/14/94 Yorkton (SJHL)
Teagan Sacher 5-11 178 Winnipeg 11/1/94 Pats
Nathan Warren 6-3 190 Prince George, B.C. 3/20/95 Prince George (major midget)

[patsdude114]

Ok reading in the paper today I guess #11 on team white wasn't Dmitry Sinitsyn as it said he had some flight problems & won't arrive til today. If that was Pilton my god has he beefed up & improved his skating. Looking at the main camp list I'm assuming it was Pilton from the size of the players cause it wasn't Henry as the 2 monsters out there were easy to point out.

[nivek_wahs]

Ok reading in the paper today I guess #11 on team white wasn't Dmitry Sinitsyn as it said he had some flight problems & won't arrive til today. If that was Pilton my god has he beefed up & improved his skating. Looking at the main camp list I'm assuming it was Pilton from the size of the players cause it wasn't Henry as the 2 monsters out there were easy to point out.
I believe the player you are talking about is indeed Pilton. And I believe Blue #19 is Kammerer. I'm sure I heard Cameron call him Max.

[patsdude114]

Well I don't know what you think of Pilton but I thought I seen a lot of progress in his game from after he was reassigned to Jr A last year & my god did he fill out

[Bepoleon]

http://blogs.leaderpost.com/2013/08/30/10-things-to-watch/#sthash.Z6vHQWmt.dpuf

[nivek_wahs]

Cuts as per Greg Harder:

The Regina Pats trimmed the following players from their training camp roster on Friday: F Jesse Miller, F Kyler Nachtigall, F Koal Roberts, F Keelan Saworski, F Riley Woods, D Mark Edmands, D Chase Goods, D Mitchell Lyall, D Sam MacBean, D Liam Schioler, G Mitchel Adamyk and G Troy Martyniuk. Each of those players was handed his outright release except for Schioler, the team’s second-round pick in the 2013 bantam draft. He had to leave early due to school commitments at Shattuck St. Mary’s.

The Pats carried over 22 players from rookie camp into the main group on Friday. That brings the roster to 67 players (35 forwards, 24 defencemen and eight goalies)

The biggest round of cuts is expected following Sunday’s Blue & White intrasquad game (11 a.m., Co-operators Centre).

- See more at: http://blogs.leaderpost.com/2013/08/30/pats-cutsroster-update/#sthash.8h4TRN21.dpuf

[nivek_wahs]

Updated Roster as of August 30, 2013

FORWARDS (35)
Adam Berg 6-0 170 Calgary 2/4/97 Calgary (minor midget AAA)
Chase Brakel 5-8 140 Winnipeg 12/1/98 Winnipeg (Bantam AAA)
Dexter Bricker 5-10 176 Saskatoon 4/22/95 Nipawin (SJHL)
Adam Brooks 5-10 160 Winnipeg 5/6/96 Pats
Braden Christoffer 5-10 185 Sherwood Park, Alta. 8/2/94 Pats
Rykr Cole 5-10 175 Moosomin 4/29/97 Moose Jaw (midget AAA)
Daylon Creasy 6-2 205 Carberry, Man. 11/8/95 Southwest (midget AAA)
Patrick D’Amico 6-0 200 Winnipeg 11/4/94 Pats
Jacob Elmer 5-11 140 Calgary 12/31/98 Edge (bantam AAA)
Connor Gay 6-0 185 Saskatoon 5/4/95 Pats
Dryden Hunt 5-10 175 Nelson, B.C. 11/24/95 Pats
Maximilian Kammerer 6-0 175 Dusseldorf, Germany 9/28/96 EC Bad Tolz (Germany Div. 3)
Morgan Klimchuk 5-11 180 Calgary 3/2/95 Pats
Colton Kroeker 6-1 160 Surrey, B.C. 1/21/97 Delta Academy (minor mid AAA)
Nakehko Lamothe 6-3 200 Edmonton 2/26/95 K of C (midget AAA)
Clay Lang 6-0 160 Killian, Alta. 1/29/97 Camrose (minor midget AAA)
Drew Litwin 5-10 150 Wynyard 2/28/97 Tisdale (midget AAA)
Braydon MacDonald 5-11 190 Stonewall, Man. 1/14/95 Swan Valley (Man. Jr. A)
Geordie Maguire 6-0 165 Winnipeg 4/17/95 Brandon (WHL)
Jared McAmmond 6-0 190 Grande Prairie, Alta. 2/6/97 Grand Prairie (midget AAA)
Marc McCoy 6-2 192 Edmonton 5/31/94 Pats
Lane Olsen 5-8 145 Taber, Alta. 2/14/95 Notre Dame (midget AAA)
Bryar Ortynski 6-1 172 Edmonton 1/5/96 Pats
Trent Ouellette 6-0 163 Drumheller, Alta. 3/31/93 Pats
Jack Rodewald 6-1 172 Winnipeg 2/2/94 Pats
Carson Samoridny 6-3 205 St. Albert, Alta. 6/24/94 Pats
Dane Schioler 6-0 160 Winnipeg 4/12/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Hayden Schwarz 6-2 175 Minot, N.D. 3/3/96 Minot (high school)
Luc Smith 6-3 185 Onoway, Alta. 1/20/98 Spruce Grove (bantam AAA)
Sam Steel 5-10 160 Sherwood Park, Alta. 2/3/98 Sherwood Park (bantam AAA)
Chandler Stephenson 5-11 191 Saskatoon 4/22/94 Pats
Dyson Stevenson 6-0 160 Shaunavon 7/15/93 Pats
Brady Third 6-1 167 Carlyle 6/18/98 Notre Dame (bantam AAA)
Austin Wagner 6-2 180 Calgary 6/23/97 Calgary (midget AAA)
Rylee Zimmer 6-1 160 Russell, Man. 3/8/97 Notre Dame (midget AAA)

DEFENCEMEN (24)
Sean Buchanan 6-2 190 Victoria, B.C. 11/12/96 South Island (B.C. major midget)
Kyle Burroughs 5-11 173 Langley, B.C. 7/12/95 Pats
Tom Dakers 6-2 215 Victoria, B.C. 3/1/96 Saanich (B.C. junior B)
Luke Fenske 6-1 209 Penticton, B.C. 5/23/93 Pats
Kendall Fransoo 6-1 165 North Battleford 6/1/96 North Battleford (SJHL)
Jared Freadrich 5-9 158 Camrose, Alta. 3/4/98 Camrose (bantam AAA)
Rob Fulton 6-3 198 Drayton Valley, Alta. 1/31/97 Camrose (midget AAA)
Stephen Hak 6-1 187 Winnipeg 2/1/94 Pats
Tye Hand 6-3 190 Yellowknife, NWT 6/14/95 Pats
Chase Harrison 5-11 155 Winnipeg 10/11/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Darian Henry 6-5 185 Strathmore, Alta. 8/4/94 Pats
James Hilsendager 5-11 173 Lloydminster 3/20/97 Lloyd (midget AAA)
Cole Jones 6-1 197 Oakbank, Man. 1/4/96 Eastman (midget AAA)
Brendan Kallis 6-1 170 St. Albert, Alta. 5/18/97 St. Albert (midget AAA)
Ryan Krushen 6-1 170 Sherwood Park, Alta. 1/1/98 Sher. Park (bantam AAA)
Tyler Leicht 6-1 180 Grande Prairie, Alta. 6/20/96 Grande Prairie (midget AAA)
Griffin Mumby 6-0 178 Calgary 3/11/96 Pats
Brady Pouteau 6-0 170 Oak Bluff, Man. 1/9/98 Pembina Valley (bantam AAA)
Kade Pilton 6-5 190 Parksville, B.C. 11/8/94 Pats
Brady Reagan 6-3 200 Calgary 8/14/97 UFA (midget AAA)
Dmitry Sinitsyn 6-2 205 Moscow, Russia 6/17/94 U-Mass-Lowell (NCAA)
Sean Whelan 6-1 190 Moose Jaw 2/11/94 Pats
Liam Watson 6-2 205 Edmonton 8/30/96 SSAC (midget AAA)
Colby Williams 5-11 180 Regina 1/26/95 Pats

GOALTENDERS (8)
Adam Beukeboom 5-11 177 Sundre, Alta. 7/26/94 Drumheller (AJHL)
Kurtis Chapman 6-0 165 Airdrie, Alta. 2/9/98 Airdrie (bantam AAA)
Patrick Gora 5-10 180 St. Albert, Alta. 2/1/96 St. Albert (midget AAA)
Anthony Hamill 6-3 185 Red Deer 4/9/95 Fort Sask (midget AAA)
Dawson MacAuley 6-5 212 Prince Albert 5/14/94 Yorkton (SJHL)
Teagan Sacher 5-11 178 Winnipeg 11/1/94 Pats
Nick Schneider 6-2 164 Leduc, Alta. 7/21/97 Spruce Grove (midget AAA)
Nathan Warren 6-3 190 Prince George, B.C. 3/20/95 Prince George (major midget)

[patsdude114]

I don't know if this is just my opinion on Pilton but he looks like he has developed better skill since being sent home last year & also is playing a lot meaner then I ever recall. Sure as hell know he beefed up a lot, I think after last seasons little problem up in stoon the only way he makes the team now is if he shows toughness, since we do lack that.

Steel is still fitting in great with the vets, D'Amico's goal was all from Steel's sweet pass. Damn does this kid have vision & great hands also a surprisingly very good backhand shot too.

Save of the scrimmage between Blue & White was hands down the sprawling glove save back door by MacAuley, Beukeboom looked avg, he better have some strong preseason games if he has a shot imo

[RWAH]

IMO Sacher looked very good tonight . MacAuley was good technically one weak goal allowed and one rebound in to the slot. I noted when he is in the butterfly on the goal line its about two inches short of post to post. Agree with PD114 Pilton looks bigger, more confident, more offensive. A pairing of Pilton and Fulton could strike some fear in the opposition.
Not sure why Klimchuk was not dressed. Anyone out there know why.
Coach Dixon said they expect Dmitry Sinitsyn to arrive Saturday. Hope it is not like Stoon and the wrong person got paid so the Russian federation will not release the player.
I can not be at any scrimmages tomorrow so all the posts possible would be appreciated

[sbtatter]

Who was the player last year you turtled up in Saskatoon? Is he back?

[patsdude114]

Who was the player last year you turtled up in Saskatoon? Is he back?


That was Pilton who refused to go back onto the ice after he gave Revel a beating.


As for Klimchuk he took a slash on his last shift during the 2nd period of the scrimmage against Team White I remember him kind of yelling at the random guy who did it with 'are you f#&king serious' prob for precautions they let him sit not like he is actually battling for a spot anyways his is a lock.

Also that guy we got from Brandon got cut by Pilton on a hit along the boards early in the same scrimmage and he never returned as he was up in stands close to me after.

[sbtatter]

That was Pilton who refused to go back onto the ice after he gave Revel a beating.


As for Klimchuk he took a slash on his last shift during the 2nd period of the scrimmage against Team White I remember him kind of yelling at the random guy who did it with 'are you f#&king serious' prob for precautions they let him sit not like he is actually battling for a spot anyways his is a lock.

Also that guy we got from Brandon got cut by Pilton on a hit along the boards early in the same scrimmage and he never returned as he was up in stands close to me after.

McGuire? Is he still a string bean? Great speed, but never looking to be a physical presence

[patsdude114]

McGuire looks like he has filled out abit altho I'm not truly sure as I never really noticed him when BRN was in regina to play to really know forsure. He has shows some flashes of what he is capable of doing. Preseason will really tell where he fits in within our franchise, I do feel there is a spot for him here.

The russian has finally arrived & looks to be a treat to watch so far

Also does #18 on white have a mouth on him or what? Believe its his 3rd fight today already 2 against Hand & thought he fought another guy too. Then after his 2nd fight against Hand, Pilton grabbed him as well & from where I'm sitting looked like a few shots were exchanged.

[patsdude114]

Camp is getting to be a gong show now!

Too much stick swinging trying to kill each other. Overheard Lang at the end of scrimmage (after Hand & McCoy's on ice situation) saying to Cameron to go address this BS.

To be a fly on the wall to hear this convo (if you wanna call it that) towards Hand, Ouellette, McCoy, Pilton would love to hear it. There comes a point where maybe camp is dragging on abit too far as really getting sick of each other now. It makes for good competion but at what expense when the parents of the 15/16yr olds see this BS between the vets

[patsdude114]

I was looking at our main camp roster and I must say the hockey operations staff have a tough job infront of them at picking our opening day roster (which is a few more then your final number of 24). So much has to be considered into the roster with age groups and then the player positions as well within the depth chart.

Our 3 20yr olds are not that strong of a group, I personally feel the only lock is Stevenson. Ouellette & Fenske I both believe will be playing elsewhere in the league (or not even in league) I just think with our youth movement & strong 97 class that developing a player is more important then finding a spot for these guys. I think we will only go with 2 20yr olds most of the year unless we find a no brainer upgrade over Ouellette or Fenske.

The toughest group is the 94 group especially upfront where we have 6 19yr olds who can all play. If we weren't looking at a younger roster all 6 would be kept but that just isn't going to happen. Stephenson & McCoy imo are locks due to being #1 #2 centers, after those 2 guys like Christoffer, Samoridny, Rodewald I think fill out on the wings (1 LW, 2 RW) so to me that leaves D'Amico the odd man out which I do think can bring in a pick. The 94 group on the back end not going into much details but these are the guys who will not make it, Henry, Pilton, Whelan.

The next group is the 95's which I really like this group a lot lead by Klimchuk & Burroughs after them there is solid support guys in Hunt, Williams, Gay & Maguire I think all 6 of these guys are key to the success for this year & next year as well.

The 96 group is still weak imo, I don't see Brooks or Schioler making the roster. I think the upcoming 97's are stronger then both of these guys. The 96's that I feel will be on the roster are Mumby (hasn't looked out of place all camp) Harrison (has looked good moving the puck) & Kammerer (shows a lot of potential with good hands). Ortynski is a player on the bubble for me, he has been much better in camp then all of last year imo.

Another very strong group is the 97 lead by Reagan with Wagner, Kroeker, Litwin & Berg really all pushing for spots. Zimmer has been good just feel he needs another year in midget to get stronger, same goes with Cole & McAmmond. Now I don't think we will have 4 16yr old fwds but there is a chance as well. I think if Litwin or Berg are not ready to make jump it reinserts Ouellette into the roster.

Our goalie situation I think isn't as wide open as some may of thought prior to camp (myself included) Sacher has been by far the best hands down and imo there hasn't been much difference between Beukeboom, MacAuley & Gora with that said I think if Gora does well in preseason action I think you give him the job just cause of the age difference.


*I'll edit this tomorrow prob sometime with what I wrote above in more of a roster list type*


Also I was unable to attend the last scrimmage of training camp tonight due to picking the wife up from airport, if anyone has any comments on the scrimmage I would love to hear them

[nivek_wahs]

August 31 Transactions

Players Released
F - Chase Brakel
F - Daylon Creasy
F - Nakehko Lamothe
F - Clay Lang
F - Braydon MacDonald
F - Lane Olsen
F - Hayden Schwarz

D - Sean Buchanan
D - Tom Dakers
D - Cole Jones
D - Ryan Krushen
D - Taylor Leicht
D - Liam Watson
D - Sean Whelan

G - Nathan Warren
G – Anthony Hamill

Players Reassigned
F - Drew Litwin

D - Brady Pouteau
D - Jared Freadrich

G - Kurtis Chapman
G - Patrick Gora

[nivek_wahs]

Updated Roster as of August 31, 2013

By my counts:

FORWARDS (27)
Adam Berg 6-0 170 Calgary 2/4/97 Calgary (minor midget AAA)
Dexter Bricker 5-10 176 Saskatoon 4/22/95 Nipawin (SJHL)
Adam Brooks 5-10 160 Winnipeg 5/6/96 Pats
Braden Christoffer 5-10 185 Sherwood Park, Alta. 8/2/94 Pats
Rykr Cole 5-10 175 Moosomin 4/29/97 Moose Jaw (midget AAA)
Patrick D’Amico 6-0 200 Winnipeg 11/4/94 Pats
Jacob Elmer 5-11 140 Calgary 12/31/98 Edge (bantam AAA)
Connor Gay 6-0 185 Saskatoon 5/4/95 Pats
Dryden Hunt 5-10 175 Nelson, B.C. 11/24/95 Pats
Maximilian Kammerer 6-0 175 Dusseldorf, Germany 9/28/96 EC Bad Tolz (Germany Div. 3)
Morgan Klimchuk 5-11 180 Calgary 3/2/95 Pats
Colton Kroeker 6-1 160 Surrey, B.C. 1/21/97 Delta Academy (minor mid AAA)
Geordie Maguire 6-0 165 Winnipeg 4/17/95 Brandon (WHL)
Jared McAmmond 6-0 190 Grande Prairie, Alta. 2/6/97 Grand Prairie (midget AAA)
Marc McCoy 6-2 192 Edmonton 5/31/94 Pats
Bryar Ortynski 6-1 172 Edmonton 1/5/96 Pats
Trent Ouellette 6-0 163 Drumheller, Alta. 3/31/93 Pats
Jack Rodewald 6-1 172 Winnipeg 2/2/94 Pats
Carson Samoridny 6-3 205 St. Albert, Alta. 6/24/94 Pats
Dane Schioler 6-0 160 Winnipeg 4/12/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Luc Smith 6-3 185 Onoway, Alta. 1/20/98 Spruce Grove (bantam AAA)
Sam Steel 5-10 160 Sherwood Park, Alta. 2/3/98 Sherwood Park (bantam AAA)
Chandler Stephenson 5-11 191 Saskatoon 4/22/94 Pats
Dyson Stevenson 6-0 160 Shaunavon 7/15/93 Pats
Brady Third 6-1 167 Carlyle 6/18/98 Notre Dame (bantam AAA)
Austin Wagner 6-2 180 Calgary 6/23/97 Calgary (midget AAA)
Rylee Zimmer 6-1 160 Russell, Man. 3/8/97 Notre Dame (midget AAA)

DEFENCEMEN (15)
Kyle Burroughs 5-11 173 Langley, B.C. 7/12/95 Pats
Luke Fenske 6-1 209 Penticton, B.C. 5/23/93 Pats
Kendall Fransoo 6-1 165 North Battleford 6/1/96 North Battleford (SJHL)
Rob Fulton 6-3 198 Drayton Valley, Alta. 1/31/97 Camrose (midget AAA)
Stephen Hak 6-1 187 Winnipeg 2/1/94 Pats
Tye Hand 6-3 190 Yellowknife, NWT 6/14/95 Pats
Chase Harrison 5-11 155 Winnipeg 10/11/96 Winnipeg (midget AAA)
Darian Henry 6-5 185 Strathmore, Alta. 8/4/94 Pats
James Hilsendager 5-11 173 Lloydminster 3/20/97 Lloyd (midget AAA)
Brendan Kallis 6-1 170 St. Albert, Alta. 5/18/97 St. Albert (midget AAA)
Griffin Mumby 6-0 178 Calgary 3/11/96 Pats
Kade Pilton 6-5 190 Parksville, B.C. 11/8/94 Pats
Brady Reagan 6-3 200 Calgary 8/14/97 UFA (midget AAA)
Dmitry Sinitsyn 6-2 205 Moscow, Russia 6/17/94 U-Mass-Lowell (NCAA)
Colby Williams 5-11 180 Regina 1/26/95 Pats

GOALTENDERS (4)
Adam Beukeboom 5-11 177 Sundre, Alta. 7/26/94 Drumheller (AJHL)
Dawson MacAuley 6-5 212 Prince Albert 5/14/94 Yorkton (SJHL)
Teagan Sacher 5-11 178 Winnipeg 11/1/94 Pats
Nick Schneider 6-2 164 Leduc, Alta. 7/21/97 Spruce Grove (midget AAA)

[patsdude114]

Well looks like we are set on having 2 19yr old goalies then, as I don't see the benefit of going with a 16yr old back up as he would get a lot more playing time if he goes back to midget.

Really no surprises on any of those releases or reassignments, thought maybe Gora had a better chance. Altho after watching Pilton play abit more I'm surprised he wasn't released over Whelan

[patsdude114]

Just a quick post here from blue & white game think Fulton looks a lot better today then any other part of camp. Almost like he was just going thru the motions of rookie/main camp for this point.

One more note I'm hating Fenske more & more after this training camp, after seeing the depth of the young prospects there are a good 4 to 5 that bring more then he does skill wise & the same for physical play, plus Fulton for example is willing to drop the mits unlike Fenske all of last year.

[Bepoleon]

I like the play of...
Hunt, Gay, Kammerer, Wagner, Maguire and Sinitsyn.

Unimpressed by...
Fenske, Mumby and D'amico.

[patsdude114]

I like the play of...
Hunt, Gay, Kammerer, Wagner, Maguire and Sinitsyn.

Unimpressed by...
Fenske, Mumby and D'amico.

I am in the same boat as you with Fenske

[nivek_wahs]

From Greg Harder's blog... More moves...

After the game, the Pats reassigned the following prospects to their respective club teams (mostly the midget AAA ranks): D Brendan Kallis, F Brady Third, F Rykr Cole, D Rob Fulton, G Nicholas Schneider, D Kendall Fransoo (SJHL’s Battlefords North Stars), D James Hilsendager, F Jacob Elmer, F Jared McAmmond and F Luc Smith

[patsdude114]

None of those moves surprise me much besides maybe Kallis abit, I thought he was just as good if not at times better then Reagan.

Kind of surprised there was no vets part of that reassignment like Pilton for example, he started out looking half arsed decent but he's showing his true colors again & not worth the ground he walks on

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

I was always under the assumption that Tanner Burghardt was supposed to be the team's future starter. Why isn't he at camp?

[patsdude114]

He was dropped from the 50PL early in the off season

[Winning]

I was looking at our main camp roster and I must say the hockey operations staff have a tough job infront of them at picking our opening day roster (which is a few more then your final number of 24). So much has to be considered into the roster with age groups and then the player positions as well within the depth chart.

Our 3 20yr olds are not that strong of a group, I personally feel the only lock is Stevenson. Ouellette & Fenske I both believe will be playing elsewhere in the league (or not even in league) I just think with our youth movement & strong 97 class that developing a player is more important then finding a spot for these guys. I think we will only go with 2 20yr olds most of the year unless we find a no brainer upgrade over Ouellette or Fenske.

The toughest group is the 94 group especially upfront where we have 6 19yr olds who can all play. If we weren't looking at a younger roster all 6 would be kept but that just isn't going to happen. Stephenson & McCoy imo are locks due to being #1 #2 centers, after those 2 guys like Christoffer, Samoridny, Rodewald I think fill out on the wings (1 LW, 2 RW) so to me that leaves D'Amico the odd man out which I do think can bring in a pick. The 94 group on the back end not going into much details but these are the guys who will not make it, Henry, Pilton, Whelan.

The next group is the 95's which I really like this group a lot lead by Klimchuk & Burroughs after them there is solid support guys in Hunt, Williams, Gay & Maguire I think all 6 of these guys are key to the success for this year & next year as well.

The 96 group is still weak imo, I don't see Brooks or Schioler making the roster. I think the upcoming 97's are stronger then both of these guys. The 96's that I feel will be on the roster are Mumby (hasn't looked out of place all camp) Harrison (has looked good moving the puck) & Kammerer (shows a lot of potential with good hands). Ortynski is a player on the bubble for me, he has been much better in camp then all of last year imo.

Another very strong group is the 97 lead by Reagan with Wagner, Kroeker, Litwin & Berg really all pushing for spots. Zimmer has been good just feel he needs another year in midget to get stronger, same goes with Cole & McAmmond. Now I don't think we will have 4 16yr old fwds but there is a chance as well. I think if Litwin or Berg are not ready to make jump it reinserts Ouellette into the roster.

Our goalie situation I think isn't as wide open as some may of thought prior to camp (myself included) Sacher has been by far the best hands down and imo there hasn't been much difference between Beukeboom, MacAuley & Gora with that said I think if Gora does well in preseason action I think you give him the job just cause of the age difference.


*I'll edit this tomorrow prob sometime with what I wrote above in more of a roster list type*


Also I was unable to attend the last scrimmage of training camp tonight due to picking the wife up from airport, if anyone has any comments on the scrimmage I would love to hear them

Was trying to highlight the Ortynski quote but I am technologically inept. You say that you don't think Brooks belongs on the team, but Ortynski is a "bubble player" ? Are you serious? Brooks is a much more skilled player IMO ( I would think everyone else's as well) I agree that Ortynski is a bubble player, but Brooks is most definitely a roster player.

[patsdude114]

If you had attended training camp at all & seen how scared Brooks was to go into the corners you would say he wouldn't belong on the team either. I never questioned Brooks skill level, but being a pint sized player plays a big role in how effective a player can be.

I said Ortynski was a bubble player as it looks like he has really matured & growen more confident in his skills, he isn't afraid to go into the corners with the bigger Dmen unlike Brooks. I would love to see Brooks on the team, I like his speed I just don't see it this year unfortunately, a lot of 16yr olds are way past him in terms of growth & skill.

[Winning]

Are you off your medication? To even compare these two players is a joke. Brooks is a small skilled forward with natural goal scoring ability. Ortynski needs to learn to use his size. They rushed Ortynski last year and he may never recover. It looks to me like Brooks is continuing to progress, this year will be the tell tale. Will be surprised if Ortynski sticks.

[patsdude114]

I think you may need some medication cause I don't see anywhere that I am comparing these 2 players at all. They are 2 completely different players, Brooks is a skilled smaller player who is afraid to go into the corners, if you cant see that then I feel sorry for you.

Ortynski lost a year of development last year that much I can agree with you, but he is much more confident so far in camp and hopefully that carriers over into the preseason and into the regular season. Last year there was a lot of pressure on the coaches to keep Brooks around as he was our highest draft pick able to play on the roster. This year that pressure just isn't there as there are a lot more 97's more capable of taking both Brooks & Ortynski's spots.

Like I said before I hope Brooks can crack the line up but it will not surprise me 1 bit if he doesn't.

[sbtatter]

How did McGuire and Sam Steel look in the final intra squad scrimmage?

[west coast]

I haven't had a chance to see the pats yet this year but I feel that they need to address team speed as that was lacking last year - I am looking forward to a new coaching regime this year and can't wait till the season gets under way

[patsdude114]

How did McGuire and Sam Steel look in the final intra squad scrimmage?


Steel didn't look out of place with the vets he had 1g1a in blue & white game, he somehow found himself on a breakaway & he went to the same move he did all rookie camp on MacAuley getting him to open up & slip it 5 hole, thinking Steel has done this more hundreds of times already during his career.

As for McGuire he looked good used his speed a lot & scored on a pass from behind goal line. He has a roster spot forsure prob on 3rd line to start the year.

[patsdude114]

From Greg Harder's blog... More moves...

After the game, the Pats reassigned the following prospects to their respective club teams (mostly the midget AAA ranks): D Brendan Kallis, F Brady Third, F Rykr Cole, D Rob Fulton, G Nicholas Schneider, D Kendall Fransoo (SJHL’s Battlefords North Stars), D James Hilsendager, F Jacob Elmer, F Jared McAmmond and F Luc Smith

On the Pats site compared to this list everything is the same except that Adam Berg is also on the list of players reassigned....


Regina, Saskatchewan – The Regina Pats announced the reassignment of eleven prospects today. The Blue and White will carry thirty-five players into the Pre-Season including twenty-one forwards, eleven defencemen and three goaltenders.

Player Reassignments

F - Adam Berg
F - Rykr Cole
F - Jacob Elmer
F - Jared McAmmond
F - Luc Smith
F - Brady Third


D - Kendall Fransoo
D - Rob Fulton
D - James Hilsendager
D - Brendan Kallis


G - Nick Schneider

[RWAH]

Just took a little time and looked at the 35 man roster by age and this is the result
Forwards: 2 - 20s (Ouellette, Stevenson)
6 - 19 (Christoffer, D'Amico, McCoy, Rodewald, Samoridny. Stevenson
6 - 18 (Bricker, Gay, Hunt, Kammerer, Klimchuk, McGuire
3 - 17 (Brooks, Ortynski, Schoiler Dana)
3 - 16 (Colton Kroeker, Austin Wagner, Rulee Zimmer)
1 - 15 (Sam Steel)
Total 21
Defence: 1 -0 20 (Fenske)
4 - 19 (Hak, Henry, Pilton, Simitske)
3 - 18 (Burroughs, Hand, Williams)
2 - 17 (Harrison Chase, Mumby)
1 - 16 (Brady Reagan)
Total 11
Goal: 3 0 19 (Beukeboom, MaxcAuley, Sacher)
Total 3

If one takes to heart what Chad Lang has said all along about how strong the 97 draft was then you would assume the four remaining 16s will be on the opening day roster.
The 20s- would only change if a trade to upgrade that age group can be worked out so that leaves the main competition for the roster spots in the 17,18 and 19 ages. The team may have only two 20s but I doubt it would finallize at one - 20
IMO on D (Hak. Henry, Pilton) we keep one and (Harrison, Mumby, Hand) we keep two) Total 8 d men
On offence it is more complicated: To get to 15 forwards 5 players need to be re-assigned In the 19s D'Amico, Cristoffer one is out, 18s Bricker, Gayone is out, 17s keepm one on Brooks, Ortynski and Schoiler.
That has a roster of 16 forwards and 8 defence and 3 tenders.
This all goes out the window when we trade a tender as we will not carry 3 all year.
Just some thinking out loud. I look forward to other opinions and welcome them.

[witness]

I think the Pats are going to go 'young' this year.
I would look to have more 17 year olds make the team.
IMO that the Pats would be looking to keep 6 - 7 19 year olds. And then that goes out the window when they are going with 2 19 year old goaltenders.

Here are my thoughts:
Forwards:
I would think that D'Amico is in tough to make the team. I thought that after last years pre season he had an upside. But, after the injury, we really didn't get to see it and as a result he was scratched for a lot of games.
Stephenson, Christoffer, McCoy, Rodewald and Samoriday will be the 19 year olds. All will be made available at the deadline to add depth to a contender.
Klimchuk, Hunt and Maguire will make the team
I think that they need to build around the 17 year olds. so Kammerer, Brooks, Schioler and Ortynski will be around.
Jury is out on the 16 year olds. It is only good to keep them if they play. If they are going to be scratched all the time then send them down for the playing time. I do see a couple of 16 year olds on the forward squad, I have just not seen enough of them to give an opinion.

there is an opportunity to upgrade the 20 year old, but what would be the cost? If Ouellette can maintain the start he had last year then keep him. They will need at least 40 points from him and he is a pain to play against.

Defense:
Would love to see the Pats get Johnston from Kelowna (but again at what cost?)
Sinitsyn will be the only 19 year old. I don't mind Hak, but I think Hand and Mumby may just bring more to the table.
Burroughs, Hand and Williams will be the core 18 year old group.
You have to have some 17 year olds, the best are Harrison and Mumby. I think that Mumby is better than some of the other posters here. He didn't play a ton last year and when he did he was thrown into situations that he wasn't ready for yet (because of the injuries). Harrison is kind of small, but does move the puck pretty well. I don't know if he will stand up to physical play.
And Reagan will be on the team.

Goaltenders:
I think that Sacher is the starter.
I am assuming that Lang acquired Macauley because he was not sure that Beukeboom can do the job.

[patsdude114]

I have to agree with pretty much everything witness has said, I'm not entirely sold on Brooks but only cause of his size which he does play scared abit. Hopefully some confidence can help him over come that though. As for Mumby he is capable of playing at this level, people just have to realise he isn't a puck moving Dman he is a more of a stay at home type. I can live with his mistakes as a 17yr old more then I can with Fenske.

Without a doubt Sacher is our starter & MacAuley is our backup, don't even think Beukeboom has been good enough to be someone elses backup this year I guess it depends how desperate a team is for a vet backup (if they want to go that route).

I like D'Amico a lot but at his age of 19 he just won't play into the Pats cards this year. I hope another team takes him on though as I do believe there is untapped potential there, just needs a chance to prove it & stay healthy.

[Bepoleon]

20's
Stevenson Fenske
Ouellette
- Stevenson's a lock. Ouellette too unless he plays his way off team or we find an upgrade. Fenske stays until we desperately find another 20 year old upgrade.

19's
Stephenson Sinitsyn
Christoffer Henry
Samoridny Pilton
McCoy Hak
Rodewald
D'Amico
- Stephenson, Christoffer (IMO), Sinitsyn are locks. One or two of Samoridny, McCoy and Rodewald make the cut. One of Henry, Pilton and Hak could make the team. D'amico's out.


18's
Klimchuk Burroughs
Hunt Williams
Maguire Hand
Gay
Bricker
- Klimchuk, Hunt, Maguire, Gay, Burroughs and Williams make the team. Hand could make this team but is fighting tooth and nail against Mumby and Harrison. Bricker? Surprise out of camp. He fought a couple times in scrimmage. The one time he had Hand fuming. He didn't play the blue and white but the coaches must like him to have him here still.

17's
Kammerer Mumby
Brooks Harrison
Ortynski
Schioler
- Kammerer, Brooks, Ortynski, Mumby make the team. Harrison is battling Hand for a spot. Harrison was recently signed. Schioler is in tough.

16's
Wagner Reagan
Kroeker
Zimmer
- Wagner and Reagan make the team. One of Kroeker and Zimmer have a good shot.

Alot of the cuts are depending if Lang wants to go ultra young or have more 19 year old players on this team.

[patsdude114]

I just don't see the point in keeping Fenske at all, especially if pretty well every fan so far has said we need an upgrade on him. Then why even let him make the team to start with, he isn't even good, he's got hands of stone (that he won't use to fight) his skating is subpar, only thing he has going for him is he likes to play phyiscal.

As for Mccoy, Rodewald & Samoridny I believe all 3 make the team. McCoy is going to be a key centerman on our team this season, Rodewald is 1 of our best skaters & hits hard on the forecheck & Samoridny has some scoring touch, fans always complain we are too small & all 3 of these guys are big kids would be stupid to get rid of 1 for a smaller younger player who will have little impact. Its easy to say stay as young as you can but with a team that has only made the playoffs once in the last 5 yrs making the playoffs to get the young guys we do have experience is very key as well with this franchise moving forward.

[patsdude114]

Is the pats game on the radio tonight does anyone know?



nevermind its on radio....watch NFL football on TV and listen to pats on radio sounds like a good Thrusday night

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

I just don't see the point in keeping Fenske at all, especially if pretty well every fan so far has said we need an upgrade on him. Then why even let him make the team to start with, he isn't even good, he's got hands of stone (that he won't use to fight) his skating is subpar, only thing he has going for him is he likes to play phyiscal.

All right.

...So you've has been made abundantly clear, all summer, that you don't want Fenske occupying an OA spot. Surely at this point, it is safe to say he is not your guy.

Yeah, maybe an upgrade(...within our price range) can be made, but at this point(especially this early) on the backend, we lack experience, size, and toughness. He has those three things and he is the only guy who has been here for more than a season on the back end in a prominent role. He is really the only option for a leader on the backend, and he can prove to be a help to young Reagan, who could be another in the long line of skilled, physical D-men to come through this team.

We can't take underwhelming camp performances for proven veterans too much to heart. Its beyond early and we know what these guys can do. Why go looking for what we already have when he hasn't failed to met the expectations yet?

If you ask me, its between him and Stevenson for captain. See how he does to start the season.

[patsdude114]

Not sure if you have attended any of training camp this year or not but size on out back end has not been an issue like in years past. I will agree we don't have much for toughness back there but Fenske doesn't help that, the guy had zero interest in fighting anyone last year which goes to show with his zero fights last year. For a guy that plays a in your face style (for the most part) who isn't afraid to lay the body on a guy you would think the guy would have at least a couple fights under his belt last year. That's not toughness.

We actually have experience on our back end this year, anchored by Burroughs. We need toughness on the back end im not questioning that at all, if Fenske was 19 there would be no problems at all with him on the roster but as a 20yr old need to be more of a impact guy which he is not by any means. Would rather keep Henry and Pilton over Fenske and that says a lot especially to throw Pilton's name in there. All 3 guys play the same type of style, neither guy is good with the puck, but there all physical, ha at least Pilton will beat up 16yr olds lmao

It wont hurt my feelings if Fenske makes the team just wont be thrilled by it, as I'd much rather see a younger guy making the same mistakes Fenske makes. At least they can learn from it

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

Not sure if you have attended any of training camp this year or not but size on out back end has not been an issue like in years past. I will agree we don't have much for toughness back there but Fenske doesn't help that, the guy had zero interest in fighting anyone last year which goes to show with his zero fights last year. For a guy that plays a in your face style (for the most part) who isn't afraid to lay the body on a guy you would think the guy would have at least a couple fights under his belt last year. That's not toughness.

We actually have experience on our back end this year, anchored by Burroughs. We need toughness on the back end im not questioning that at all, if Fenske was 19 there would be no problems at all with him on the roster but as a 20yr old need to be more of a impact guy which he is not by any means. Would rather keep Henry and Pilton over Fenske and that says a lot especially to throw Pilton's name in there. All 3 guys play the same type of style, neither guy is good with the puck, but there all physical, ha at least Pilton will beat up 16yr olds lmao

It wont hurt my feelings if Fenske makes the team just wont be thrilled by it, as I'd much rather see a younger guy making the same mistakes Fenske makes. At least they can learn from it

Im in the belief that we should let him make those mistakes first before writing him off.

Fenske has been in this league since he was 16. That has to count for something...and he was playing quality minutes while Williams and Burroughs were basically still in diapers. He also has the respect that henry and pilton don't have, with the leader qualities, he could make a good captain. Captains are usually never the best offensive weapons on the team, anyways

That, and he doesn't dive regularily unlike a couple other prospects for captain.

As for the fights, I will admit zero is kind of odd, but we were also well aware of Conacher's opinion on fighting(although it still partly happened anyways)....and now Pat has left. The year before last, Fenske had 6, and 4 of which were after being acquired by the pats, and against fighters. I don't think its for a lack of wanting, but with last year's backend I get that they needed him on the ice and not in the box. This year, that isn't as much of a problem.

But....in a game where David Branch is like a kid with a magnifying glass on aspiring fighters, physical play is still the primary attribute he brings, and we need it. Sure, we have some players who are definitely scrappy, but Fenske will intimidate. That is a big distinction to make, and something we don't have. Reagan certainly isn't there yet, and the rest are too small.

[patsdude114]

Don't get me wrong I fully get what your saying about what Fenske brings especially with the physical play, that part of his game I have never questioned as I know he is a physical guy. Yes we do need that I won't hit that need at all, if Hand stays healthy & with the experice he got last year when he did play I believe he is that guy.

Also if Henry decides that he wants to play that physical game & drop the gloves (which he did last night in PA) think he becomes a valuable assest especially with his 6'5 frame. Another guy if he thinks he can fight guys older then 16 would be Pilton, the guy played pretty mean in camp, and a lot of the younger guys were afraid to come down his side. He is also 6'5 200lbs if he gets it together this year he can be on our back end as well even if its for a couple months & move an older guy to free up more minutes for Reagan, Harrison & Mumby as they all get more comfortable down the road.

Last nights game we went with a very young lineup 5 16yr olds 1 15yr old, a few 17s & sounds like they put in the effort & pressed PA right to the end (who did dress a much older lineup). We have 5 fwds that will be on this team who all forum our top 2 lines (klimchuk, stephenson, stevenson, hunt & ouellette)

[RWAH]

I must add my 2 cents: and remind us all you get what you pay for: Last year Fenske played his fair share against the oppositions top six and was the only Dman with a plus rating with 17 points. Possible "Arogant" is correct and he was instructed not to fight last year. To have a plus rating you must be successfully getting the puck out of your end, (even with last years system of chip up the boards)

On all the WHL (22) team preseason roster there are a total of 74 93s. only 10 teams have more than 3 (93s) and only 2 have more than 1 (93) Dman. Calgary has Peter Kosterman and Jaynen Rissling ans the Hat has Dylan Bredo and Zach Hodder. IMO Kosterman will not be available and are any of them an upgrade???

Both MJ and PG have only 2 (93s) and not a (93) Dman so they may be in the market if any become available, which will drive the price up higher than we may be willing to pay

Just my 2 cents

[AlanC]

On all the WHL (22) team preseason roster there are a total of 74 93s. only 10 teams have more than 3 (93s) and only 2 have more than 1 (93) Dman. Calgary has Peter Kosterman and Jaynen Rissling ans the Hat has Dylan Bredo and Zach Hodder. IMO Kosterman will not be available and are any of them an upgrade???

Calgary has three overage d-men - Kosterman, Rissling, and Jesse Zgraggen. With Brady Brassart holding a lock on an overage spot at forward, one of the three d-men has to go.

Most Hitmen fans will probably give you Kosterman out of the three. Some of them might even offer to drive him to Regina for you. I'm not in THAT group but IMO he is definitely the weakest of the three. He's a #4/#5 d-man on most teams and that's not good enough to be an overager on most teams IMO.

The only catch in getting him (if you want him) is that Rissling is a draft pick of the Washington Capitals. They have another year to sign him yet, but if they choose to sign him this year at their training camp and put him in the AHL, then suddenly the Hitmen don't have any extra overagers after all.

[RWAH]

Thanks Alan C: I think the point is there is not an upgrade to Fenske available and the price may be inflated so the nay sayers on this board should just accept.

[patsdude114]

Not a bad game tonight could of used a guy like Harrison playing tonight instead of 4 guys who don't move puck that well (Mumby, Fenske, Hak, Reagan) all 4 defensive minded players.

Sinitsyn did a lot of good tonight but also some costly bad plays as well defensively (2 at the offensive blueline) its preseason midas well figure out where his weaknesses are now before the season starts. That goal he scored on the 1timer was an absolute cannon of a shot, PA's goalie stood no chance on it.

I like how Cameron wants to play though I think his style of play has a lot of potential. Way more puck possession & aggressive forecheck. The vets seem to get how the forechecking game is suppose to be but some of the younger guys just don't quite get it yet but it will come.

I was really impressed with the 4th line of all 16yr olds, Dixson played them a lot tonight as they had good pursuit on the puck all game long. Wagner had a couple good scoring chances as well. Give Wagner til xmas this kid is going to be a gem, let him build more strength & he will be tougher to handle when he drives to the net (maybe not so much this year but as he gets older forsure).

McGuire has a lot of untapped potential, I still believe this. The same can be said for Gay, no questions asked both these 18yr olds make the roster this year.

[RWAH]

I liked the Russian too but he needs to play better defence. Buekeboom (how do you like that spelling) is playing himself off this team. two goals from shots from between the end faceoff dot and the low circle and both between him and the post. Lastly I thought Oullette played lazy and for a 20 and should be a leader that is not acceptable.
Yes I like the puck possession style and a more aggressive for check. That was the first game I saw Steel play and he will be a franchise player. Hope we gather some draft picks for 2014 and 2015 so we can get some players with him in the 2016/17 and 2017/18 seasons, with some quality picks and some luck the Pats could an elite team for those seasons. (that's planning ahead)

[patsdude114]

I fully agree with Beukeboom he hasn't looked too good at all imo, the blue & white game he was nothing special & tonight he wasn't much better besides 1 or 2 scramble saves.

Had a nice talk with Larry Steel tonight for about 45mins prior to game, very nice guy knows his hockey & learned a few things as well about him & Sam. Apparently Larry grew up in Moose Jaw & is looking forward to the 1st time Sam gets to play there as he said he is going to make sure he down for that game as he has a lot of friends still in the jaw. As for the younger Steel tonight I thought he saw the ice well & his 2 assists on the PP showcased that. I liked it when they let Steel lead the rush on the PP, he gets into the open ice & made a few good moves to get around the SH guys. His 1st assist on the PP was all him QB the PP even though he got the 2nd assist.

As for Ouellette I think he is more less playing not to get hurt, we all know what he is capable of doing once the regular season comes around. There's no 1 really to take his spot anyways, he's our top PK guy, plus he is a centerman who won over 50% of his draws last year. His spot is more then secured as #2 or #3 center, him & McCoy will most likely rotate that #2 spot all year.

[Bepoleon]

I agree. Last night, I was impressed with Gay, Maguire, McCoy, Steel (of course). Gay is showing alot more finesse and offensive this year, Maguire was flying out there, I had McCoy on the bubble to make this team (due to too many 19's)... He definately on this team. Steel is Steel, can't wait for this kid to don a Pats jersey full time.

Beukeboom is playing his way off this team. MacCaulay was stronger and when he's on his knees he still covers the top portion of the net lol.

Is Sinitsyn the new Marincin?

[sbtatter]

McGuire can skate, there's no doubt about that, seemed like a good kid as well. Just couldn't handle the traffice and the corners. Hope it works out for him in Regina, with all the 15 to 17 year old talent here in Brandon, there just wasn't room for him. I would rather have kept him and dealt Palmer to Regina though!

[patsdude114]

Hahaha we wouldn't of wanted Palmer at all, would of been happier with a bag of pucks

[Bepoleon]

http://www.reginapats.com/article/pats-trim-roster-to-thirty-two

Steel, Kroeker and Beukeboom have been re-assigned.

[Fight Guy]

Last night was the first hockey a I caught this season, and did I ever have a hard time getting into it. I'm a Rider fan too and it's still football season, and it's not hard to figure out why the Pats have been over shadowed a bit this season. But, I have been following along on here.

So, here's my minimal input... After the second goal, I knew Beukeboom was done for. MacAuley takes me back to the Andy Adams days. He's huge!!

Was really impressed by Sinitsyn. Has a good grasp of North American hockey playing in the States. Other than his skill set and his deadly shot, I was may more happy to see him use his body the way he did! Kammerer looks pretty good too. Looks like two decent imports this season...good work!

Maguire looked pretty good too. Can see him having a good season. Gay had a good game too. Also was happy with Christoffer's play. Mind you, I only saw him play about a minute before he got booted for his fight, but that made me happy. Thinking he could have a good season this year.

Another thing I noticed, Mumby looked a lot smaller than I remember. He didn't seem to do much from what I noticed last night, but like I said, I'm not too into it yet and only noticed some bad things he did last night. As for the size thing, I only say that in comparison to the rest of the team. Looks like the Pats will have a big team in a couple years. Kinda like when some of those big, contender type teams come here and walk all over the little players. Could be the other way around for once.

The last player I'll comment on for now...Steel. This kid is going to be ridiculous! ...that is all.

[sbtatter]

Who does Steele play like, either past dub players or NHL player? Is he going to be the size of Weal or Eberle or a bit bigger?

[patsdude114]

Who does Steele play like, either past dub players or NHL player? Is he going to be the size of Weal or Eberle or a bit bigger?

The first time I saw Steel back in the summer he reminded me a lot of Weal, especially when he gets moving with his agility. Watching the blue & white game and then the home game against PA on Friday night even lead me more to lean towards Weal as well. Once he hits that top speed when coming out from behind the net on the PP breakout he makes defenders think he is going 1 way then with his quickness he breaks it the other way with the puck.

His vision is already surpassed Weal & Eberle at age 15 (going by same ages when they were too) I remember those guys when they were 15/16 and they didn't seem to handle themselves the same way as Steel did. This kid is the real deal, no questions asked. Benson & Patrick have size on him forsure but I think what separates Steel from them is his vision (from what ive read/heard about the other players). Talking with Steel's dad on Friday night before the game he even touched on Benson too, said how good of a player he is but its too hard to compare Benson to Steel just due to both being different types of players.

As for Beukeboom being reassigned really no surprise at all that MacAuley won the backup job (& who knows he may not stop there either) Beukeboom looked bad on 2 of the 3 goals he allowed on Friday night and allowing 6 goals in 2 half games is not a formula to make a WHL roster as a backup when MacAuley allowed 2 goals in the same span. By making this decision so easy on the Pats hockey operations with a reassignment this early there goes Beukeboom's chances of even landing on another team as a backup.

Looks like our 3 16yr olds this year are Wagner (knew he was a lock for the team during summer camp) Zimmer (1st thought maybe abit small and needed fill out) & Reagan (also a lock but that was expected last season)

[sbtatter]

Thanks for the Steele update. Patrick is 1 month away fron turning 15, and already looks WHL ready. He reminds me a lot of Schenn, but a faster skater and bigger than Schenn was at 16. maybe not as mean as Schenn was when he first entered the league. He's definetly a pass first guy right now, but can score, as evidenced against MJ Friday night when he roofed that one against Wapple. Going to be interesting to see how Steele/Patrick compare over the years being as though Brandon really wanted Patrick and gave Regina MCguire to make it happen. I think likely Brandon didn't want another smaller skill guy, got enough in that mold, Schmyr, Hawryluk, Lewis, and of course if the players were fairly even they would want the son of a previous player. Be good to watch some AAA games this year and see how all these star 15 year old prospects do. I wouldn't bet against Clague ending up being the best prospect out of this years bantam draft, that guy is unreal on defence.

[patsdude114]

Ya you guys got 2 gems in this past draft that are great building blocks moving forward with your rebuild. Hopefully all the top 10 guys pan out how the teams hope they will, was a very deep draft with a lot of high end skill in the top 10.

Patrick kind of picked where he wanted to go although I'm very sure he would of played pretty much anywhere but in PG (poor PG). Patrick's size would of looked good in a pats jersey, mainly due to the Pats always being so small for so many yrs but I'm not complaining of the gem in Steel either. Be nice to see Steel during a few call ups this year (which Lang has said they will use all 5 games he's able to play) just to see how he is progressing with his strength & size.

[RWAH]

Interesting stats from Alan Calders blog. He has taken all the preseason rosters and broke down the teams averages. the Pats at an average age of 18.18 years makes us the oldest team with 12 - 19 year olds. With 32 players on the roster only one team has more players still in camp. The average height is 72.81 inches or for the old timers that is 6 feet and 13/16 of an inch only 5 teams average taller. Average weight is 185.94 pounds which is middle of the pack

Once the teams are all down to size this will change. In the past AC has recalculated the averages and posted them on his blog (Smallthoughtsatlarge)

[patsdude114]

having 2 19yr old goalies is going to inflat our avg age easily, there will definitely be 2 19yr olds gone before final rosters need to be named so far for me Pilton is leading the pack on that which will bring down our avg height a lot & even more if Henry is the other since they are our 2 tallest players. I do feel that D'Amico is the odd 1 out up front but I hope the pats can get a 4th or 5th rd pick for him which may be over valuing him abit but hey PG could use him right?

[RWAH]

PG is (3 and 1) or (4 and 0) in the silly season. That should not mean much but its PG and they could think they have the horses they need.

Early in camp you were high on Pilton and we have not seen him in the pre-season, was he that bad in the blue and white. Will listen tonight and see if he plays and how well.

[patsdude114]

Pilton looked good in the 1st scrimmage then the next 1 he went after that 15yr old to fight him & lost all respect for the guy. He was avg in blue & white game & havenseen him since either.

Ill admit I was quick to judge him in 1st scrimmage lmao

[RWAH]

PD114 looked at the goal tenders in the league and our 2 - 19s are not that askew. Kam 2 19s - Kel 1-20 & 1-18 - Let 1-20 & 1-18 & 1-17 - PA 1-20 & 1-16 - RD 1-20 & 1-17 - Spo 1-20 & 1-18 & 1-16 - SC 1-20 & 1-18 & 1-16. As goalies are late bloomers almost all teams have a 19 at least and then one younger.

I agree the final opening day roster will not include 12 19s. IMO 9 max 2 tenders and 7 skaters

[west coast]

the pressure to win is on again in Regina.i don't mind the team deciding to go with an older more experienced squad.You basically want to start the season with the best possible line up at all positions .2 -19 year old goalies isn't a bad idea as to be honest - Regina is very inexperienced in goal this year.Matt Hewitt will be missed - best of luck to Hewitt in his future endevours

[patsdude114]

I have zero problem with having 2 19yr old goalies, just said it will inflate our avg age slightly.

Nice win in Stoon last night, our 3rd preseason game where the final was 4-3 nice to see us getting a win in the silly season. I wasn't able to listen to the game until OT actually I kind of forgot about the game to be honest, did Sacher play the whole game or did they spilt the games again?

[Bepoleon]

I only caught the third and ot on the radio. Sacher played the whole game. Apparently he faced only 3 shots in the 1st period. He let in a couple shaky goals but bounced back.

[RWAH]

Yes Sacher played the whole game and it was his first action in the pre-season. He was shakey to start with, Stoon second goal he miss played the puck behind the goal line in the trapizoid, deflected into the slot and on to a Stoon players stick
Hope for the Brandon games each tender gets one game complete and they don't split each game
Has anyone heard how Burroughs , Stephenson and Sininski are doing at pro camps.

[patsdude114]

No clue on those 3 players altho it may look like Burroughs will get a chance to play on the Pats ice in a NYI jersey & my guess is after that get reassigned right after that game. Guess a lot will depend if he makes it that long still with the NYI camp. Would be a great experience for him though, would of been even better had klimchuk not got hurt & they faced each other in the preseason game

[nivek_wahs]

Burroughs reassigned to Regina.

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=681575


September 10: Kyle Burroughs, Victor Crus Rydberg, Jesse Graham, Loic Leduc and Adam Pelech were returned to their respective junior clubs.


I don't think Sinitsyn was in camp with the Stars. I think I heard during the broadcast that Sinitsyn was back in Regina. According to the Stars training camp roster he's nowhere to be found.

http://starsinsideedge.com/2013/09/06/dallas-stars-training-camp-roster/

[patsdude114]

No surprise that Burroughs was reassigned already but would of been cool for him & local Pats fans to watch him on our ice in a NYI jersey. Glad he is back & healthy though

[RWAH]

Two games this wek end then we need to get down to 24 players.
Heres my guess at the opening day roster;
D Fence 11 on the roster need to get to 8
93 - Fenske 94 - Sinitsyn, Hak 95 - Burrows, Williams 96 - Harrison 97 - Reagan. 93s Pilton & Henry released with the last spot between Hand and Mumby and my choice would be Mumby. That roster would brake down by age as 1-20, 2-19, 2-18, 2-17, 1-16
Forwards will be a lot more dificult. On the roster is 19 and we need to get to 14
93 - Ouellette, Stevenson 94 - McCoy, Stephenson, Christoffer, Rodewald 95 - Hunt, Maguire, klimchuk 96 - Kammerer 97 - Wagner, Zimmer
the last 2 spots are between (Samoridny a 19 and Gay a 18)(Bricker-18 or Schoiler-17 or Brooks a17) The only way Bricker makes it is if we want an agitater on the roster and Brooks is ahead of Schoiler.
If Gay beats out Samoridny we have 6 19s this season and 2 (Stephenson and Sinitsyn) will not be returning as 20 next season so we have 4 for 3 spots
IMO here is what it looks like oldest to youngest
D Fence
Fenske Sininsyn
Hak Burroughs
Williams Harrison
Mumby Reagan
O Fence
Ouellette Stevenson McCoy
Stephenson Christoffer Rodewald
Gay Hunt Maguire
Klimchuk Kammerer Brooks
Wagner Zimmer
If anyone wants to attempt lines and pairings please be my guest

[Some_Arrogant_Jerk]

I think one of Sadmoridny and Schioler stays. We need the size(and hopefully skill down the line). Brooks stays, as he is apart of our future offence and for a young kid met expectations. I don't know much about bricker and not even about Gay...but I doubt both stay as they are fringe 18 year old players.

Honestly, we might just trade a 19 year old. We got too many and not enough pre-NHL draft age roster players.

[RWAH]

Ill take Samoridny for Gay but if you keep both Brooks and Schoiler another player needs to go, Who would that be? I agree we should keep a few as long as we can and try to trade for some draft picks Some of the players we will be re-assigning have the talent to play in the WHL its just finding a team that will trade for them

[patsdude114]

Nice to see Stephenson getting a chance in Washington's main camp, this is the year he needs to have a breakout year in junior and make it a season fully healthy. Last year's injury was a total freak accident & was 1pt shy of a point/game player, at times my biggest beer with Stephenson is he looks off too many quality shots attempts to force a pass, the guy has a great release he needs to use it lots this year.

Also I think the final rosters don't need to be set come the start of the year, if I recall (which I could be wrong) its the same time the 20yr old quota needs to be met. I remember a few years ago at the start of the regular season we had 4 20yr olds for over a week into the regular season but were only allowed to dress 3/game.

I don't think Samoridny or Gay are buddle players I believe they both have a spot on the team. Also as of right now Klimchuk & Stephenson do not count towards our roster as they are at Pro Camps. The longer they stay up gives the Pats more time to figure out there bubble players.

I think Henry has a better chance at making the team again then some are giving him credit for.... he is actually showing some toughness back there & has always had a good 1st pass for a big kid. If he is willing to drop the mits on a some what regular basis I believe there is a spot for him on our team as we lack toughness badly & his size alone can intimidate some players in the league, especially younger kids with little experience entering the league early in the year.

Is it just me or is Ouellette's 0pts in 3 preseason games abit alarming coming from a 20yr old? Yes he is a good PK & faceoff guy but doesn't a 20yr old need to bring abit more? He does provide leadership but Samoridny or Rodewald do the same as well. Id rather carry a few more 19yr olds instead of carrying dead weight with 20yr olds (not bringing up the other guy anymore)

[patsdude114]

Happy with the effort by the pats today but not so happy with those 1st 3 goals on the 1st 3 shots of the game. The difference in the game, Sacher struggled today to come up with a save in the 1st period before getting the hook at the start of the 2nd period.

Good thing the silly season is over & we will find out what our roster will look like soon. Im expecting some releases to happen either later today or by Monday forsure. Just have too many players kicking around still, need to get it down closer to the final roster.

I thought the Pats did a lot of very good things today we did dominate the play just not the score board. Papirny played a great game made 5 to 7 very good saves & his best friend bailed him out late in the game from a shot off Sinitsyn. Clague is gonna be a gem, he has so much poise with the puck at 15yrs old already, that trade KM made to get him in the draft is going to turn out to be the biggest steal in the whole draft. I still laugh each & every time I think of that deal lol

[RWAH]

I like the aggressive for check. Agree Ouellette is not showing well through the pre-season but his back half of last season was pretty good.
On Friday I was on the Dallas Stars web site and they list Sininsyn on their training camp roster so does anyone know why he is not at their camp. You all know I am a MacAuley supporter and I thought he was very good technically but he opens the 5 hole when players are moving across the face of the net. I think he has earned the starter for opening night (Thurs)

[patsdude114]

On Friday I was on the Dallas Stars web site and they list Sininsyn on their training camp roster so does anyone know why he is not at their camp.


It could of have been some sort of a condition with his Visa since it was late & they had to speed up the process to get him here when they did. Im not sure how they work but maybe there was some sort of a condition attached to it until a certain time frame. I got no clue I fully expected him to be at there camp as well.

[patsdude114]

Regina, Saskatchewan – Regina Pats Senior VP and GM Chad Lang announced today the team reassigned four players after the Pats’ pre-season schedule came to an end last night.

Defenceman Kade Pilton (’94) played 27 games for the Blue and White last season after being acquired from the Victoria Royals. Pilton will join the Surrey Eagles in the BCHL who are off to a 2-1-0-0 start for the 2013-14 season.

Defenceman Darian Henry (’94) finished the season with Regina in 2012-13 after coming to the Pats from the Calgary Hitmen. The 6’5” defender split 63 games between the Pats and Hitmen in 2012-13 and will join the Alberni Valley Bulldogs (0-4-0-0) of the BCHL.

Forward Bryar Ortynski (’96), one of the Pats’ second round selections in 2011, played in 43 games as a rookie with the Blue and White in 2012-13. Ortynski heads to Sherwood Park to play with the Crusaders (3-1-0-0) in the AJHL.
I think Conacher ruined his development by keeping him in league last season, he wasn't ready by any means

Forward Dane Schioler (’96), also a second round pick of the Pats in 2011, had a solid season last year in Midget AAA tallying 40 points in 42 games. The Winnipeg, MB product will be reassigned to the Virden Oil Capitals of the MJHL.

The Regina Pats roster now sits at 28 players heading into the opening week of the WHL Regular Season. The Blue and White open their season Thursday, September 19th on home ice against the Swift Current Broncos.

[patsdude114]

Neither reassignment is a big surprise to be honest, interested to see what happens with D'Amico I think he has the skill to play in the WHL but it just may not be with us any more.

Im glad to see Brooks finally playing up to his potential, he was less then avg during camp & I thought if he didn't pick it up soon he wouldn't of made it past the Blue & White game. Thankfully he did turn it around as I do like Brooks always have.

I think we need to get down 2 more players on our backend, I believe the players in that bubble will be Mumby, Fenske, Hand, Hak & Harrison (I really hope Harrison sticks around this year, I think he shows the most promise out of the names listed) Im all for a rebuild year with a younger group, & again Fenske did nothing to impress me at all yesterday afternoon. I thought Reagan was just as good as Fenske was.

Geordie Maguire has really been finding his way this preseason with the Pats, hopefully he can carry it into the regular season and find his scoring touch that he had as a 16yr old in midget AAA....

Here is a quick look at our 2 oldest age groups at forward... (20s & 19s)
Stevenson a lock could very well be our captain
Ouellette good PK guy & better then avg in faceoffs, is it enough to keep him around? I say no
Stephenson got moved into WSH main camp, needing a breakout year
Christoffer competes hard every shift, imo a lock on the LW
McCoy our best faceoff guy hands down, big body #2 C imo
Rodewald big body who skates very well, hits hard & drives to net, believe we need his presence
Samoridny another big body on RW, believe he will be a 20yr old next year for us
D'Amico as much as I like Patrick I just don't think there is room for him, can we get a 5th rd pick for him?

I think Bricker is on his way out, he never appeared in 1 preseason game (unless he hurt) he hasn't played in the WHL since age 16 with RD Rebels, I'd rather keep Gay around then him to be honest.

[sbtatter]

Why can't Henry stick in this league?

[patsdude114]

Why can't Henry stick in this league?

big kid not that tough limited skill would prob do it...he does have a good 1st pass (learned that in CGY not REG lol)

He fought Zajac the other night in stoon and couldn't even do much against him & hes got like 8 inches on him at least. If you go to the Pats site and watch the highlights from the Blades game on the 10th you will see the clip from the fight, with Henry's size he should of been able to control the whole fight, but fight was over pretty quick with Zajac tackling him (if I recall correctly)

[RWAH]

I agree with PD 114 not sure why D'Amico and Brickner were not re-assigned to get to 26. IMO The only thing is trying to get a draft pick for them.
On D-Fence IMO Fenske is in unless we trade for an upgrade (93) and there is not a lot out there. If Fenske is released then Hak's chances improve, as we would have 2 19's with Hak and Sinitdyn and the rest younger We are down to 9 D Men now so I think only 1 to be re-assigned, but it could be two as we could have only 7 on the final roster. Hak has had a very good camp so it would not surprise me we keep both Fenske and Hak in that case it is between Hand and Mumby and Mumby has had a good camp. That scenario makes Hand the odd man out and he should be of value to another team.

Looking forward to Thursday. Not expecting a win as Speedy Creek and PA should be near the top of the east

[nivek_wahs]

I think Bricker is on his way out, he never appeared in 1 preseason game (unless he hurt) he hasn't played in the WHL since age 16 with RD Rebels, I'd rather keep Gay around then him to be honest.He was hurt in the second last scrimmage in training camp the one camp where everyone seemed to want a piece of him. He's a pest.

Bricker and Gay are totally opposite players.

From what I saw of camp Bricker is an in your face, grinder type player who will get under anyone's skin. A pure checking line player.

Gay is more of a finesse player that put on some size and added a more physical side to his game. Way more of an offensive upside.

[nivek_wahs]

Im glad to see Brooks finally playing up to his potential, he was less then avg during camp & I thought if he didn't pick it up soon he wouldn't of made it past the Blue & White game. Thankfully he did turn it around as I do like Brooks always have.I disagree with your assessment about his camp. I thought he was one of the pleasant surprises. In no way was he "lights out" but was in no way having an average camp. The kids' got some skill. With the right linemates (Maguire for one) he's going to be a good player for the next few seasons.

[nivek_wahs]

On D-Fence IMO Fenske is in unless we trade for an upgrade (93) and there is not a lot out there. If Fenske is released then Hak's chances improve, as we would have 2 19's with Hak and Sinitdyn and the rest younger We are down to 9 D Men now so I think only 1 to be re-assigned, but it could be two as we could have only 7 on the final roster. Hak has had a very good camp so it would not surprise me we keep both Fenske and Hak in that case it is between Hand and Mumby and Mumby has had a good camp. That scenario makes Hand the odd man out and he should be of value to another team.I'm sure we'll see one of the defencemen moved soon but you really think they would just release an overage player for no reason? Hey, I'm not a huge Fenske fan but I don't see them releasing him (unless there is a better option out there that the Pats can grab). In all honesty I can see him wearing a letter on his sweater yet again. Hak barely participated in training camp as he was out of town (I believe it was a wedding) and basically missed most of the early camp so he's probably just getting up to speed. Sinitsyn showed that he has some skill and a wicked shot but I'm worried that he'll turn out to be another Jan Zapletal (probably one of the best players at camp in 2004.... terrible during the season). I really hope not.

In all honesty, as much as I think Chase Harrison is going to be a dynamic player for the Pats.... I think de might be the odd player out on the defence....

[patsdude114]

Bricker and Gay are totally opposite players.


Oh yes I know they are 2 completely different type of players and comparing them is like apples and oranges, but this team has tons of checking role players and need the skill to develop as skill in the end wins you hockey games.



I disagree with your assessment about his camp. I thought he was one of the pleasant surprises. In no way was he "lights out" but was in no way having an average camp. The kids' got some skill. With the right linemates (Maguire for one) he's going to be a good player for the next few seasons.

Well the great thing about sports is everyone has a different opinion on each & every player some agree some disagree. I personally thought Brooks played scared a lot in camp especially with all the chippy play happening in camp that was above and beyond what happens in a normal league game.

He has looked a lot better as of late which is nice to see as I have never questioned his skill at all