Memorial Cup Tournament [Archive]

Beaner

05-14-2006, 07:05 PM

Now that Moncton has clinched the QMJHL Championship I compiled some stats for everyone to look at.

It means about as much as stats from 3 different leagues can, but, it's better than nothing.

Overall Season Record:

Records:
Wildcats: 52-15-0-3 (107points/70games)
Remparts: 52-16-1-1 (106points/70games)
Petes: 47-16-2-3 (99points/68games)
Giants: 47-19-0-6 (100points/72games)

PP:
Remparts: 24.4%
Wildcats 23.7%
Petes: 20.5%
Giants 19.6%

PK:
Giants 86.9%
Remparts: 84.2%
Petes: 84.1%
Wildcats: 83.3%

GF/GA:
Wildcats 345/184 (+161)
Remparts: 349/221 (+128)
Giants 252/156 (+96)
Petes: 269/199 (+70)

PLAYOFF STATS:

RECORD:
Giants: 16-2
Petes:16-3
Wildcats:16-5
Remparts:14-8

GF/GA:
Wildcats:92/46 (+46)
Remparts: 103/58(+45)
Giants: 64/24 (+40)
Petes: 78/57 (+21)

PP:
Remparts:26.4%
Petes: 25.4%
Giants: 23.2%
Wildcats:22.2%

PK:
Giants: 95.5%
Wildcats: 83.7%
Remparts: 81.0%
Petes: 78.1%

TOP SCORERS:
Remparts: Alexander Radulov 21/33 54 pts +19 2.45ppg
Giants: Gilbert Brule 16/14 30 pts. +14 1.66ppg (WHL MVP)
Petes: Daniel Ryder 15/16 31pts +12 1.63ppg (OHL MVP)
Wildcats: Phillipe Dupois 18/13 31pts +14 1.47ppg

TOP SCORING DEFENCEMAN:
Remparts: Marc-Eduard Vlasic 5/23 28 pts +9 1.27ppg
Giants: Cody Franson 5/15 20 pts. +14 1.11ppg
Wildcats: Keith Yandle 6/14 20pts +8 1.05ppg
Petes: Lubomir Stach 2/16 18pts. +12 0.85ppg

GOALTENDER:
Giants: Dustin Slade GAA: 1.31 SV% 0.938 SO 6
Petes: David Shantz GAA:2.55 SV% 0.928 SO 1
Remparts: Cedrick Desjardins GGA:2.53 SV% 0.928 SO1
Wildcats: Josh Tordjman GAA: 2.34 Sv% 0.913 SO2

Beaner

05-14-2006, 07:07 PM

looks like Radulov for Quebec is someone to watch!
http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=2147483647&id_register=2093

He is amazing to watch, and he must play about 25mins a game. Quebec seems to only have 2 lines. He did seem a bit tired in game 6 tonight, but the the time off now should give him enough rest for the MC.

The Giants are going to have to be very aware of when he is on the ice.

Kristi

05-15-2006, 10:07 AM

They were 11-0 at home during the playoffs! Can anyone beat them at home??

Beaner

05-15-2006, 10:52 AM

The official schedule is out --

Round Robin

Fri. May 19
Peterborough vs. Quebec
8:00 p.m. AT

Sat. May 20
Moncton vs. Vancouver
8:00 p.m. AT

Sun. May 21
Quebec vs. Vancouver
5:00 p.m. AT

Mon. May 22
Moncton vs. Peterborough
8:00 p.m. AT

Tue. May 23
Vancouver vs. Peterborough
8:00 p.m. AT

Wed. May 24
Quebec vs. Moncton
8:00 p.m. AT

Moncton choose to play the QMJHL schedule as opposed to the host schedule.

rinkrat

05-15-2006, 04:27 PM

Just for the record,Moncton is 4 hours ahead of us.

Carebear

05-15-2006, 04:59 PM

Awww man, I'm gonna have to tape the first 2 games and watch them on the Monday morning!! GAH

Crosby rules

05-15-2006, 05:54 PM

stats don't mean anything, as far as i am concerned. The whl is a tougher league physical wise than the Q, and O.

dondo

05-15-2006, 09:16 PM

I'm away that weekend, hopefully the local pubs where I'm going will carry the games.

btw - these are on the SPac right?

GF71

05-15-2006, 11:10 PM

The boys are leaving from the south terminal at approx. 11:30 on Wed for anybody is interested. Confirm the time before you go though...I am not responsible for changes to the itinerary! :)

dondo

05-16-2006, 06:15 PM

AM or PM GF71?

GF71

05-16-2006, 07:02 PM

AM. Double check to make sure the plans haven't changed before you go though.

scrunt

05-16-2006, 09:30 PM

AM. Double check to make sure the plans haven't changed before you go though.

And just how do you do that?

GF71

05-16-2006, 09:53 PM

Well scrunt...let's just say I know these kind of things. ;)

Beaner

05-18-2006, 05:44 PM

Linky link to Sportsnet Team by team Previews.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060518_102711_5024

Links to the other teams, are on the right under the Brule Picture.

Kristi

05-18-2006, 08:28 PM

There will be some good updates from the Memorial Cup on this website (provded they can find internet access!!)

http://www.network54.com/Forum/236406/

Just wait til you meet these guys and lady (yes there is only one) next year in Vancouver! They are AWESOME!!

old_time_hockey

05-19-2006, 01:40 PM

Does anyone know if there is a Memorial Cup wireless site for browser enabled devices (ie cell phone) to get scores off of?

The WHL and OHL have them. But the QMJHL doesn't and if you click on live scoreboard on the main Memorial Cup page it takes you to the Q's website.

Kristi

05-19-2006, 01:55 PM

http://www.canadaeast.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=TTSPORTS

Beaner

05-19-2006, 03:42 PM

Finally it starts...

GO GIANTS GO

Beaner

05-19-2006, 08:07 PM

Petes win game 1 over Quebec 3-2.

Pretty much guarantees the Petes at least a berth in the tie-breaker.

Big Daddy

05-19-2006, 08:38 PM

I was surprised at how much room there was for the top end guys. Also, what is up with Radulov and Downie never crossing the red line? I think both teams will be in for a rough night when they face us. I was not impressed at all.

rinkrat

05-19-2006, 08:41 PM

I agree,they should be afraid...

Knuckles Muldoon

05-19-2006, 09:36 PM

If the Giants can force a grinding-type game in these games, they should be in very good shape. I didn't see much ability of the two teams tonight to withstand a tough, physical game. But both Quebec and Peterborough do have plenty of talent, though.

old_time_hockey

05-19-2006, 10:41 PM

I was quite amazed at the Remparts D...or lack of. It just seems like you could motor past them if you wanted and they were totally unorganized

dondo

05-20-2006, 12:06 AM

Radulov has mad skills though - wow some nice stuff. But i agree - when I watched a couple of the playoff games in the OHL and QMJHL.. I thought that the Giants would a better over-all team and their level of play was not great.

Kassian

05-20-2006, 04:24 AM

If that game is any indication of how the game is going to be called the Giants won't have a problem at all. That was called nothing like the NHL. Pretty funny actually how people are talking about how it's going to be a huge adjustment for the Giants.

Neither team impressed me either. It doesn't surprise me that Quebec isn't good defensively. Which team from the Q actually is? :laugh:

langdak

05-20-2006, 11:33 AM

Beaner

05-20-2006, 12:37 PM

If that game is any indication of how the game is going to be called the Giants won't have a problem at all. That was called nothing like the NHL. Pretty funny actually how people are talking about how it's going to be a huge adjustment for the Giants.

Thats what I noticed during the Remparts/Wildcats series. The Ref last night was from the Q, be interesting to see what happens with an OHL Ref.

I think the officiating across the 3 leagues is about the same as it is in the Dub.

Knuckles Muldoon

05-20-2006, 12:41 PM

I'm getting kind of disenchanted with the MemCup this year. Everybody is complaining about the heat in the arena and the ice. How can you have a top-notch product under those conditions? Not such a good experience for the players to be playing in a sauna and skating on a slurpee. C'mon CHL! Smarten up! :mad:

Bran

05-20-2006, 12:43 PM

What station is playing the games? I can't find them anywhere!

Beaner

05-20-2006, 12:52 PM

Mojo is carrying all the Giants games. Pre Game show starts 1hr prior to Game time.
www.mojoradio.ca

There is the webstreaming for 6.99$ per game.

http://www4.insinc.com/memorialcup/

And Rogers Sportsnet, is doing the TV Broadcast of all the games.

Last night I listened to the Petes Broadcast. All the teams have radio feeds, just goto the teams site and find their radio link.

Crosby rules

05-20-2006, 02:54 PM

the game is televised i know here in winnipeg on sports net. just 2 hours and 5 minutes away....C'MON GIANTS, GIVE THEM AN OLD STYLE WESTERN POOP KICKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tiger Trauma

05-20-2006, 06:48 PM

Wow a linebrawl in the Memorial Cup..this game should get interesting

DJ Ricky da Canuckaholic

05-20-2006, 08:07 PM

Refs decided this one, Giants were dominating..oh well, theyll win their remaining 2 and compete for the cup, GO GIANTS GO

Kassian

05-20-2006, 08:11 PM

The officiating was ****ing brutal. Figures it comes from an OHL referee. Their box scores have been littered with penalties all season long. Moncton gets two five on three power plays. That "elbowing" call on Lucic was absolute bull****. It's called a good solid check. And Scharff gets an "interference" call for a Moncton player skating backwards and tripping on his skate? Please...give me a break.

And that retarded penalty for shooting the puck over the glass. God I hated that penalty when Bettman and his cronies added it to the game and I hate it even more now. Such a bush league penalty. The NHL and hockey in general should be embarrassed having a rule like that.

That being said, the Giants PP certainly wasn't up to par and a lot of other guys didn't step up and produce like they did during the regular season and playoffs.

It just pisses me off because it's quite obvious Vancouver is the better team. I hope the officating isn't like this tomorrow...

bANAna

05-20-2006, 09:40 PM

I don't know how to feel...

They didn't play their best game it's as simple as that. They started out great but it just went down hill after Moncton tied it. I mean that give-away at the blue line by Reese? was absolutely brutal! I thought he had that and in an instant Moncton was heading on a 4 on 2 then they were up to 2-1. It felt like they let up, they weren't playing as tight as they had, they weren't going after the puck like a bunch of ravaging beasts like they'd previously done. oh well... next game!

And I felt the officiating was decent but I agree that the Lucic penalty didn't even come close to resembling an elbowing.

OHLArenaGuide

05-20-2006, 10:35 PM

Kassian

05-20-2006, 10:43 PM

Welcome to the new NHL.

Please don't remind me. Junior hockey is all I have left... :(

playon

05-20-2006, 10:55 PM

The 2-1 giveaway was Bartley's and brutal don't know if I would call any worse than the other. Too bad for Reese his was at a critical part of the game and maybe stuck out more but we had many chances to win or put away the game in the first period and we let them stay in it. They will rebound and be all right.

N.W. Bruin

05-21-2006, 09:27 AM

Tough go now. Short turn around time and crappy ice conditions (though it is the same for both teams in regards to the ice).

rinkrat

05-21-2006, 09:37 AM

Rehman is reffing.

http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=4468462&id_partie=4848

chiefgongshow

05-21-2006, 09:49 AM

The Giants I feel woulda won if the game was called more like the Quebec-Petes game. Should be a good game tonite. Desperation game for both teams. Quebec didnt really impress me to much in the 1st game. When Radulov is on the ice its like a 5 on 4 when Quebec doesnt have the puck, hopefully the Giants can take advantage. Not having an OHL ref and getting more used to the brutal ice conditions should help as well.

Beaner

05-21-2006, 12:50 PM

Ohh almost Game time, let's bring it Boys! :thumb:

We believe, GO GIANTS!

Kassian

05-21-2006, 01:18 PM

Rehman is reffing.

http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=4468462&id_partie=4848

Oh god. How wonderful.... :dead:

Hopefully I'll be in a good mood when I come back in a couple of hours. I don't want to have a repeat of yesterday.

Knuckles Muldoon

05-21-2006, 01:25 PM

Rehman is reffing.

http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=4468462&id_partie=4848
Seems weird to have a WHL guy doing a game in a tournament where they are trying to call it strict. Rehman hasn't been asked to ref a strict game all season. He might be twice as messed up as usual.

Beaner

05-21-2006, 01:45 PM

Well at least today the Giants will have the crowd on their side considering how much the Moncton Fans hate Quebec and Patrick Roy

OHLArenaGuide

05-21-2006, 02:46 PM

Please don't remind me. Junior hockey is all I have left... :(

If by junior hockey you mean the WHL... the O and Q both adopted the new standard.

Beaner

05-21-2006, 05:04 PM

The new standard isnt whats hurting the Giants, they are only playing the first 30 mins each game....

Kassian

05-21-2006, 05:04 PM

If by junior hockey you mean the WHL... the O and Q both adopted the new standard.

Kind of. The game is still called nothing like the NHL. Especially the Q. The OHL has been more strict than in years past however.

Either way there is a good combination of speed, skill and grit. The NHL has been trying to eliminate grit and tough players for years. So that's what I meant when I said junior hockey is all I have left.

rinkrat

05-21-2006, 05:16 PM

The new standard isnt whats hurting the Giants, they are only playing the first 30 mins each game....

Beaner,regardless of which way things are called,calling all those penalties disrupts the game.Giants play 4 line hockey,with all the penalties and TV timeouts it disrupts their gameplan.Its almost a different team that way.(No excuse,it is was it is...lol)

Beaner

05-21-2006, 05:21 PM

Beaner,regardless of which way things are called,calling all those penalties disrupts the game.Giants play 4 line hockey,with all the penalties and TV timeouts it disrupts their gameplan.Its almost a different team that way.(No excuse,it is was it is...lol)

We stopped skating in the last half of the game. Penalties or no penalties we got owned in the last half of each game.

rinkrat

05-21-2006, 05:26 PM

We stopped skating in the last half of the game. Penalties or no penalties we got owned in the last half of each game.
Ok,I'll bite.Why?
You will eventually come around to my theory of tired players,due to not being able to play 4 lines and too many penalties!
Brule,Albers,Franson,Bartley, all play PP and PK....

playon

05-21-2006, 05:46 PM

Won with four lines we just lost two games trying to play with two lines. Doesn't take much to figure it all out. Hay wasn't willing to play the last two lines after timeouts, and tried to match up and we over played our guys until they ran out and the we pushed hard last night which contributed to us really having no legs, with untimely penalities at the end of the second today.

Beaner

05-21-2006, 05:49 PM

Ok well what chances did we generate in the third Rinkrat?

I dont buy the TV time-outs and all the penalties hurting us - the PP's were 10-8 in FAVOR of the Giants. the boys stopped moving their feet and keeping the pressure up. Even after the Goal to tie it at 3-3, we did nothing. It was all Remparts in the third, and there were only 2 penalties called after that.

We may have been tired but really, did we generate one good scoring chance in the third? Maybe the boys were tired but every game this year the Giants have continued to get stronger while the oppostion has weakened. This has not happened so far in the MC.

rinkrat

05-21-2006, 05:52 PM

All I'm trying to say is,its a completely different game,if half of the total penalties are called and both teams play 3 or 4 lines.Thats Giants hockey,and that hasn't happened during the tournament.

Kassian

05-21-2006, 05:57 PM

With or without the penalties the Giants got out played in the 3rd. The defense was as bad as I can remember seeing it in a long time. They were scrambling around, couldn't dump the puck out of the zone and left Slade hanging for many shots (some of which eventually turned into goals). I don't think the officiating was as bad (or as much of a factor) as it was yesterday. The Giants just stopped skating, Quebec continued to pressure and once again the Giants PP was mediocre even though they did end up scoring a goal. When they had that two man advantage and went up 3-1 they could've put the game away with another goal.

The_Vulk

05-21-2006, 05:57 PM

I don't buy the commentary (by Sportsnet) that the time zone difference (4 hours) would mean a lack of third period ump for the Giants.

The team had over a week of rest between the WHL Championship and the Memorial Cup Tournament. So fatigue in the third period should not be an excuse, nor a reason for 5 unanswered goals against. Everyone should be well rested and ready to play.

Here's to the tie-breaker to get into the playoffs.

Knuckles Muldoon

05-21-2006, 06:18 PM

I have to admit that its kind of a strange feeling watching the boys play in these MemCup games. 'Alienated' isn't exactly the word, but 'cut-off' would probably be it. At least in the WHL playoffs, there was some sense of control or familiarity. But here, watching them from 3,000 miles away, its a bit of a helpless feeling watching them struggle, knowing its entirely up to them to figure it out, with no friendly Pacific Coliseum in sight. I'm definitely feeling the distance, and maybe the team is too.

OHLArenaGuide

05-21-2006, 06:54 PM

Kind of. The game is still called nothing like the NHL. Especially the Q. The OHL has been more strict than in years past however.

Either way there is a good combination of speed, skill and grit. The NHL has been trying to eliminate grit and tough players for years. So that's what I meant when I said junior hockey is all I have left.

That's interesting. I would agree it's not quite at NHL levels anywhere but I watched about 20 Q games and about 12 O games in person this year and I always found the standard higher in the Q.

Kassian

05-21-2006, 07:27 PM

That's interesting. I would agree it's not quite at NHL levels anywhere but I watched about 20 Q games and about 12 O games in person this year and I always found the standard higher in the Q.

Really? That's odd. Did you watch any of the Q finals? Seemed like they were letting a lot go....

OHLArenaGuide

05-21-2006, 08:43 PM

Really? That's odd. Did you watch any of the Q finals? Seemed like they were letting a lot go....

Not in person. I saw games this year mainly in St John's but also in PEI, Halifax and Bathurst, and when I was in Ontario at Christmas I was amazed at how much more was let go.

Kassian

05-21-2006, 10:20 PM

Not in person. I saw games this year mainly in St John's but also in PEI, Halifax and Bathurst, and when I was in Ontario at Christmas I was amazed at how much more was let go.

Well who knows then. I noticed the OHL box scores had a lot more minor penalties than I can remember in years past.

dondo

05-23-2006, 02:23 PM

I was away this weekend but had taped the games and listened to the first game on radio and the second caught most on the TV at the pub. I am now watching the taped games and I find it odd how the Giants can dominate for so long and then just fold like a cheap suit, all wrinkly and such, with bursting seams.

Game One: vs the Cats
dominated play through most of the game, but sagged in the third and then the turning point allowing the crowd back into the game really was crystal clear - and the G-Men failed to push back. The reffing got pretty stupid there after that though - some invisible penalties and some notable omissions.

In the third the Giants became scrambly and stopped hitting as much and forechecking. The Wildcats improved their defensive coverage in their own end though and Tjordman made some great stops - most notably on Brule on the doorstep late in the third. Some really soft play and Reese just swiping at the puck was simply brutal. The G-Men were also allowing a lot more quality shots against and backing into their zone too easily. Did Hunt get turfed for his fight cause I didn't see him on the ice in the third?

The biggest problem was that the Giants did not capitalise on their PP, and did not bury some of the chances they had created early on. We score a few more goals and its a completely diffrent game. Some open looks that weren't buried in the end killed the G-Men in game one.

Carebear

05-23-2006, 02:26 PM

I don't think he got turfed..I just think Hay didn't put him out again.

And did he come off the bench for that fight? Because I didn't see him..and then all of a sudden he was there snapping at people.

dondo

05-23-2006, 02:37 PM

no he was out on the ice when it all started Cara - but it took a while for him to get a willing combatant.

It felt like Hay overplayed his top two lines in the third instead of using all four lines to continue to rock the Cats, and HUnt added energy everytime he was put out and didn't take any stupid penalties (as I think the line brawl was what the Ginats needed at that point).. so its kind of sad to see HUnter doing what he's supposed to do - well and get punished for it.

Alos not liking the Fistric Festerling combo (but that may just be me)

Carebear

05-23-2006, 02:41 PM

It felt like Hay overplayed his top two lines in the third instead of using all four lines to continue to rock the Cats

I have to agree with you, but not even just in the third..it seemed like the top 2 lines were all I saw for the LARGE majority of both games.

dondo

05-23-2006, 03:28 PM

Game Two: vs the Remparts

highly disappointing, after dominating the first the Giants began to back off and out and out backed into their zone in the end allowing quality chances. I think that when the Giants play purely trappy hockey for extended periods they get complacent and lose their edge which is a signature of their game.

A few weird bounces and the Remparts capitalised and once they got the rolling the Giants seemed to get smaller and not only tenative but timid. They handed the game back and became spectators. It was very depressing and they tried to push back too late.

$%#@ing Rehman did not help as he pocketed the whistle as we know he does allowing the Giants players to be hauled down and hooked all over the ice in the third.

The Giants stopped skating in the third and allowed the Rempart players huge seams and backed into their net. It was not only ugly but depressing as that's not their game and its not how they win. They looked bone tired and like they lost heart. Neither of those are Giant's traits.

Kassian

05-23-2006, 04:42 PM

Did Hunt get turfed for his fight cause I didn't see him on the ice in the third?

My guess is because the game was so close Hunt didn't see the ice after that. But he didn't get a misconduct. Belanger, Spencer, Watt and Parker all got misconducts however.

dondo

05-23-2006, 06:17 PM

thx Kassian

btw - is this young ref making some horrific decisions or what? 5 min AND a game misconduct for on Watt for a player that turned his back to the hit as it was coming? ***??

and then a ticky tack golaie interference when Bliznak stops at the goal crease and Shantz falls back - at least Slade was run down even though he moved to the edge of his crease to do so, but Tardiff did not have to carry through Slade and Bliznak did not carry through Shantz at all.

refs should not affect the game with editorial calls and the past three were ALL editorial calls and some very poor decisions by a young ref.

SectionNDeserter

05-23-2006, 06:23 PM

5 min AND a game misconduct for on Watt for a player that turned his back to the hit as it was coming? ***??Actually he was already facing the glass, and Watt's feet left the ice at the last minute for good measure--gotta call those ones. Both the goaltender interference penalties were sort of cheesy though I have to agree.

dondo

05-23-2006, 06:32 PM

SND on the replay he clearly turned his back as the hit was coming and I've seen a whole lot worse, as Watt did not pile-drive him and tried to let up. It's a textbook 2min imo, or at the very least 4min - but it is not an intent to injure which is what a five and a game is.

Knuckles Muldoon

05-23-2006, 06:46 PM

C'mon you guys! Too much *****ing about the ref!! Yeah its bad, but its bad both ways. Watt was an idiot, plain and simple.
Our boys are out there letting it all hang out, doing us proud, showing how much they don't want to see it end. Cheer 'em hard and forget about the damn reffing!

dondo

05-23-2006, 06:55 PM

Knuckles Muldoon

05-23-2006, 07:12 PM

UNF*CKING BELIEVABLE!!
GB - you da MAN!

dondo

05-23-2006, 07:15 PM

^ what he said... holy _______ sweet goal!!! :bounce: :groovy:

Knuckles Muldoon

05-23-2006, 08:39 PM

.. knuckles its not bad both ways that's the point. Look at Watt's demeanor after the hit it is not an intent to injure - it wasn't smart by any stretch but it was an over-reaction

and the reffing is relevant if it directly affects the course of the game over and above what the players are actually doing out there.

now that said.. yeah they are playing their hearts out there and I am loving it. I like that every Ginat seems to be back in line and Slade is actually playing the kind of hockey we all know he can.

third period - game on!
Dondo, I saw bad calls both ways and have seen it that way in all 3 games. If you want to win, you've got to adjust on the fly. The team who does it best might be the one who wins the tournament.
It doesn't matter what Watt looked like afterwards. Bottom line is he buried a guy into the boards from behind. He opened up the possibility of getting 5 and a game and thats what he got. Its his fault. I've generally got a real bad view about blaming the ref. You've just got to smarten up and do the job on the PK. Save your energy for battling the other team; battling against the ref is a war you can't win. And that's the way the boys carried on in the third period, they just carried on with the task at hand, put their heads down and worked their butts off. And got the win. And deservedly so.

Kassian

05-23-2006, 09:23 PM

I thought the Watt call was a little harsh as well. I've seen much worse than that not even called a penalty. However at the time I can understand why the ref gave him a major and a game misconduct. What bothered me a lot more was after Slade drew the penalty (and let's be honest, he did that shouldn't have been a penalty) Brule clearly gets tripped heading into the Peterborough zone and the ref chooses not to call anything. Then not long afterwards he calls Lucic on an extremely weak "interference" penalty. Peterborough already had the 5 minute power play, a huge advantage yet they clearly took two or three penalties right afterwards none in which were called. I wasn't too happy about that.

But all in all tonight was a much better 60 minute effort. I loved the game from both Parker and Hunt. Nice to see them get more ice time and be productive.

Beaner

05-23-2006, 09:41 PM

Sorry guys that 5 for Watt I think was a good call. I can live with a ref calling that kind of hit every single time.

Kassian

05-23-2006, 09:45 PM

Sorry guys that 5 for Watt I think was a good call. I can live with a ref calling that kind of hit every single time.

Like I said I've seen much worse than that not even get called at all. But like I said previously that call didn't bother me as much as some of the other calls/non calls so far in the tournament.

Knuckles Muldoon

05-23-2006, 09:46 PM

Sorry guys that 5 for Watt I think was a good call. I can live with a ref calling that kind of hit every single time.
I fully agree. What's a ref supposed to do with something like that?

Kassian

05-23-2006, 09:56 PM

I fully agree. What's a ref supposed to do with something like that?

Make the right call. That's his job isn't it? :D ;)

I am just kidding around. So don't take that seriously... :laugh:

dondo

05-23-2006, 11:01 PM

^ actually I'm not.. I've seen players get LEVELED from behind with a two minute minor being the result.

In this case the player had his shoulder to Watt as he approached him. The player then not only put his head down but turned toward to the boards to find the puck. Watt already had up a head of steam and as he tried to let up hit the player in the back and the guy went head-first into the boards.

So in this case - the player knew there was a guy who already had his number and not only turned to face the boards of his own volition, but kept his head down.

Since Watt did not follow through in this case and tried to let up IMO (as I saw it).. then there is no way it is an intent to injure.

and yes knuckles you adjust and get on with it, but there was a point in the game where the ref's biases switched and became more of a judgement call than following the rules. as kassian said - he chose to ignore a deliberate penalty because Slade embarassed him.

however - although I fully agree with your assessment of Slade's drawing of the penalty - deliberate and pre-meditated. In his defense he was still in his blue paint and had position on Tardif and Tardif did not have to run him over.

Now all that's immaterial considering we now are once again in control of our own destiny and still have a shot at the Cup, but i find it interesting all the same.

however - I still think that young ref was in over his head and made some poor decisions and allowed his biases to dictate how he called the game.

DJ Ricky da Canuckaholic

05-24-2006, 12:44 AM

We're still alive!! :D :clap: :thumb:

eecliff

05-26-2006, 12:49 AM

rinkrat

05-26-2006, 06:54 AM

Well after this one, I don't think any Vancouver fans can b$tch about the ref-ing again ...what was it ... like 6 ppg out of 17 chances ? and the Petes went 0/5 . What the heck was that ? Of course a team will win with 17 PP.

Please don't cry a river when the refs call everthing Moncton's way in the next game ..cuz that's the way I see it happening

ee.....
Apparantley you didn't watch the game. The Petes took TEN penalties in the third period after the game was out of hand.They were running around cheapshotting the Giants after they new they were done. :spineyes:
Here's the scoresheet.
http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=342374&id_partie=4852&PHPSESSID=0a8ca3c3258ff64cb42c483f0b3a4c53

eecliff

05-26-2006, 02:21 PM

Apparantley you didn't watch the game. The Petes took TEN penalties in the third period after the game was out of hand.They were running around cheapshotting the Giants after they new they were done. :spineyes:
Here's the scoresheet.
http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=342374&id_partie=4852&PHPSESSID=0a8ca3c3258ff64cb42c483f0b3a4c53

Sorry, no I didn't see the game and I really should'nt comment without all the facts..
I just hope tonights game is called better than some of the others and may the best team win....
Good Luck to both teams..

dondo

05-26-2006, 03:23 PM

yeah actually eecliff - even though it was lop-sided our way it was actually a very consistently called game - not that the Pete's players or fans feel that way - but after I was criticising Charron for the first Petes/Giants tilt , I thought he did a good job balancing out the play and not letting the whole thing get out of hand (which it could have). The Petes players took some really dumb penalties and then compounded it by taking even more. Roughings after the whistle, blatant hooks, cross-checks, and their goalie taking swipes at any white jersey which came within five feet of his crease. It was actually quite ridiculous in the end.

btw ee: The Giants were something like 4 for 6 on the PP at one time and 6 for 11 before the parade to the box - it looked unfair, but really was not.. and for the third period the players out on the power play were the grinders as Brule and co sat for the majority of that period - and pretty much remained on the bench for at least the last ten minutes - even though putting Brule out there might have meant breaking a few Memorial Cup records. All in all I found Don Hay pretty classy under the circumstances.

and of course we'll (I'll) whine about the refs today :D :wave: ;) but hopefully it's not an issue

Carebear

05-26-2006, 09:23 PM

Anyone know when the boys will be coming back?

GF71

05-26-2006, 11:13 PM

back here tomorrow afternoon

Beaner

05-26-2006, 11:20 PM

From the Giants website:

FANS: THE GIANTS WILL RETURN HOME SATURDAY MAY 27 AT THE VANCOUVER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AT THE WESTJET ARRIVALS TERMINAL FROM TORONTO AT APPROX. 5:20pm

The_Vulk

05-27-2006, 09:19 AM

I am almost surprised the Giants did not stay till the bitter end.

Not that they are not playing in the final game, but to just be there, get that experience of what the mood, the atmosphere, etc of the final crowning game.

That would add to their already tremendous experience from this year's tournament for next year, when they host the even.

Plus, it would just add to the fire already lite, to make next year's run for the Memorial Cup all that more 'personal'.

OHLArenaGuide

05-27-2006, 09:25 AM

I am almost surprised the Giants did not stay till the bitter end.

I'm guessing that the team ownership didn't want to put 50+ people up in a hotel for two more nights. Can't say I blame them either.

dondo

05-27-2006, 03:26 PM

but what if Brule wins the MVP? :thumb: :laugh:

Beaner

05-27-2006, 03:37 PM

but what if Brule wins the MVP? :thumb: :laugh:

I have been thinking about that as well, but I just cant see them givng it to Brule since we didnt make the finals, even though he was the best player in the tournament.

dondo

05-27-2006, 03:56 PM

actually Beaner I don't think he'll get it either as it'll a be player who leads their team to the Cup win - but his numbers are heads and shoulders above his competitors and unless Radulov really lights it up tomorrow he should end up as the point leader for the tournament.

Gilbert really did try to drag his team along in the last game, but the Cats has much more passion for the puck and the game and deservedly won.

so is it the best player of the tournament, or the best player to get to the final?

he could actually have a good shot at it.

Carebear

05-28-2006, 05:21 PM

Whoever was hugging Dupuis at the end of the game...THANKS FOR MAKING ME CRY JERKS!

As for you Remparts...I look forward to seeing you next year. :evil:

rinkrat

05-28-2006, 05:31 PM

Beaner

05-28-2006, 05:44 PM

How can Marchand play for Moncton,even though he was part of the Bourdon trade and he will play for Val d'or next year.Seems like alot of funny business going on in the Q?
Also Dupuis has played in three straight Memorial Cups and Desjardins has played in two.

One of the weirdest trades ever. Weird things happen when you host the MC....

The trade was done in a way that allows the Wildcats to keep star left winger Brad Marchand for the remainder of this season. In June, the Wildcats will get back their first-round draft pick in 2008 and send Marchand to Val d'Or.

chiefgongshow

05-28-2006, 06:55 PM

How can Marchand play for Moncton,even though he was part of the Bourdon trade and he will play for Val d'or next year.Seems like alot of funny business going on in the Q?
Also Dupuis has played in three straight Memorial Cups and Desjardins has played in two.
The Q always seems to have some weird deals when the stack one team for a championship run every year. Im glad the Giants and the WHL make the tourny and got for the title the right way.

Crosby rules

05-28-2006, 07:21 PM

russians don't seem to last long in the NHL. maybe radulov will have a few good years, then nothing.

OHLArenaGuide

05-29-2006, 07:26 AM

russians don't seem to last long in the NHL. maybe radulov will have a few good years, then nothing.

Sergei Federov?

Beaner

05-29-2006, 11:49 AM

russians don't seem to last long in the NHL. maybe radulov will have a few good years, then nothing.

LOL

Radulov will be good for more than a few years. Much like Ovechkin and Malkin.

SimonTemplar

05-29-2006, 01:01 PM

Hey Giant Fans really enjoyed watching your team at The Memorial Cup this year on TV of course. I caught all the games and still thought yesterday one of the best teams is already gone home.

Getting in that hole to open pretty much paved their course and getting into the tie breaker and losing to a rested team was not an embarrasment.

I like a few on here questioned much of the calls going against any team that was not Moncton. But The Giants did get some bad calls and who ever worte it I agree Watts hit was not a match penalty.

We hosted last year here in London and now your turn is coming so do enjoy.