Boston disagrees with arbitrators award ?

[grainbear]

Since Boston choose not to agree and will not pay Tanabe the 1,275,000 awarded by the arbritator and he now becomes a free agent , maybe it is time for the GM of the NHL to say now way and no one offer this number 7 defensemen that kind of money. It seems as if some of his offers have been way to high in relation to some of the contracts given to associated players in the AHL who if on another team could easily take his place. Anyone's thoughts ?

[SectionNDeserter]

I think that if they continue to reward any player who gets 40pts in the NHL $5M like they have been, they are soon going to come to a point where the NHL teams can't sign any of these players even if they wanted to, because they will be all at or near the cap. Has been a few streaky, often-injured players this year get 200-700% increases in salary over the previous years, and as a result of this, I think that in the next few seasons we are going to see a lot of pretty decent NHL players toiling away in the AHL, or making a jump to leagues overseas, just to get work. Where do they think the players who file for arbitration next season are going to play? :confused:

[rinkrat]

Why do they need a salary cap? Corporate socialism?
Perhaps they should cap ticket prices and concession revenue. :spineyes:

[SectionNDeserter]

Why do they need a salary cap? Corporate socialism?To keep teams like Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey and Dallas from just buying the Cup every year... Anyone here not miss seeing those teams make/get anywhere in the playoffs this year?

Perhaps they should cap ticket prices and concession revenue. :spineyes:Fabulous idea! I like hockey, but I can't imagine paying to go to an NHL game.

[rinkrat]

To keep teams like Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey and Dallas from just buying the Cup every year...

Yeah,those teams won every year.How did Tampa screw the system?


I like hockey, but I can't imagine paying to go to an NHL game.

How about the Canucks scalping their own overpriced tickets for even more money? Of course after you pay the fees to join a "club" which allows you to buy the overpriced ticket.

http://www.canucks.com/subpage.asp?sectionID=351#games

Its one thing to pay decent money for entertainment(I'm a WHL season ticket holder) but to be blatantly ripped off while these multi billionaires cry poor and can't control their own spending makes me wanna puke.
There should be no cap,just like the rest of their businesses,in fact I think it should be illegal to restrict a persons income.
The salary cap NHL is already showing its warts,as previously mentioned,I think its days are numbered.The Euro leagues will take over if the NHL continues down the salary cap path,IMHO.

[SectionNDeserter]

Yeah,those teams won every year.How did Tampa screw the system?Every dog has its day. :thumb:


The salary cap NHL is already showing its warts,as previously mentioned,I think its days are numbered.The Euro leagues will take over if the NHL continues down the salary cap path,IMHO.The salary cap is working great, the teams have to actually try to build a great team, rather than just plunking down 60 or 70 million dollars. The only flaw right now is in a FEW general managers grossly overpaying UFA's (which will come back to haunt them), and these ridiculous arbitration rulings, which are forcing GMs to avoid arbitraiton by signing them to contracts that are a few hundred thousand short of the ridiculous rulings the arbitrators are handing out. I doubt the Euro leagues will ever totally take over, but I can definately see them gain some strength, at least until salaries start to come back down.

[rinkrat]

The salary cap is working great, the teams have to actually try to build a great team, rather than just plunking down 60 or 70 million dollars. .
Now they just plunk down 45 million.They still take in the same if not more.
They don't really build the team,they grab the free agent du jour...Its getting like the CFL with the amount of player movement.There will never be another Stevie Y,playing for one team his whole career.
Then you have the Bostons and Chicagos who artificially keep their salary output low to get revenue sharing and screwing their fans out of a decent product.

[SectionNDeserter]

Now they just plunk down 45 million.They still take in the same if not more. They don't really build the team,they grab the free agent du jour...Draft, sign free agent du jour, its all building ;)


Its getting like the CFL with the amount of player movement.There will never be another Stevie Y,playing for one team his whole career.The whole thing with players playing with one team their whole career ended about a decade or more ago. Yzerman is just one of the very few exceptions to the rule.


Then you have the Bostons and Chicagos who artificially keep their salary output low to get revenue sharing and screwing their fans out of a decent product.Yeah thats garbage, but I guess if the fans keep filling the building to capacity, why stop?

[rinkrat]

Yeah thats garbage, but I guess if the fans keep filling the building to capacity, why stop?
If you can sell poker and bowling over NHL there might be a problem.We tend to look more locally,the teams in Canada could probably double their prices,but I think alot of US clubs are faltering and we don't notice.Last year you could get two tickets,two beers,and parking for $50 at an LA Kings game.I know the teams in Florida are begging fans to come out...

[dondo]

are you guys done yet? :p :laugh:


How about the Canucks scalping their own overpriced tickets for even more money? Of course after you pay the fees to join a "club" which allows you to buy the overpriced ticket.

^ yeah I thought that was pretty amazingly pathetic too



The problem is that the GMs/owners didn't learn their lesson - the roll-back and the lock-out and the cap was so you would pay LESS for players so now some players are earning even more than they would have because their original salary was rolled back - so tack another 24% on top of the current salaries and you are getting a more vivid picture of how much they DIDN'T learn their lesson.

The real problem is that the veteran players who still have some chops are singing for 1M/2M here and there for a year and then move on the next year either going up or down by 500K depending upon how they did the previous season. The free agent frenzy was pretty ridiculous and when you start playing defensively suspect D-men like McCabe who had an anomaly of a year 5M then everything is skewed - thanks JFJ you dipstick.

There's zero loyalty now and no way to build a reliable fans base - because - as Seinfeld opined once "we are now cheering for a bunch of shirts cause the players change teams so often the only consistent thing from year to year is the jersey" (and often not even that with the new jerseys, the pink jerseys, and third,fourth, and fifth marketing flavour of the day jerseys - its all rather sad imo)

[SectionNDeserter]

are you guys done yet? :p :laugh: Hey! Did we say you could just butt in on our thread! :laugh:

[rinkrat]

There's zero loyalty now and no way to build a reliable fans base - because - as Seinfeld opined once "we are now cheering for a bunch of shirts cause the players change teams so often the only consistent thing from year to year is the jersey" (and often not even that with the new jerseys, the pink jerseys, and third,fourth, and fifth marketing flavour of the day jerseys - its all rather sad imo)

Very well put!
sorry if I highjacked the thread,good debate though. :thumb: