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patsfan33
11-05-2006, 11:44 PM
A featured Article on the Hockey's Future Website...

http://hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=9184

rinkrat
11-06-2006, 08:33 AM
Thanks for posting that,Pats Fan. :D

dondo
11-06-2006, 08:07 PM
yeah a great read -- and always good to hear about Paul - the fact that the Canucks didn't offer him a contract still makes me burn. I mean here's a player elevating their game in your backyard and you don't think its worth giving them a sniff?

No we gotta pick up a plumber like Fitz or a no-name like Tremblay.. lame -- beaucoup lame.

Good for Paul though.

rinkrat
11-06-2006, 08:12 PM
the fact that the Canucks didn't offer him a contract still makes me burn. I mean here's a player elevating their game in your backyard and you don't think its worth giving them a sniff?
.

I would have thought you would've tired of the corporates,err the Canucks and there ripoff, loser ways by now... :spineyes:
I guess it only took me 30 years to figure it out...
Now I have a real team to cheer for :thumb:

scrunt
11-06-2006, 09:20 PM
I would have thought you would've tired of the corporates,err the Canucks and there ripoff, loser ways by now... :spineyes:
I guess it only took me 30 years to figure it out...
Now I have a real team to cheer for :thumb:

I'm with you on this one, Rinkrat. My life improved tenfold as soon as I stopped stressing out over the Canux and became a reborn WHL'er. :thumb:

No doubt I'll be a lame-o and jump back on the Canucks bandwagon if they make the playoffs this season, but I'll deal with the shame if the situation arises.

dondo
11-07-2006, 12:55 AM
actually after watching tonights snoozefest -- I might have to agree with you rinkrat

I would have felt ripped off majorly had I paid an arm and a leg to see that dreck -- thanks bettman you goon -- the NHLisation of the WHL has me very worried right now.

Kassian
11-07-2006, 05:05 AM
I would have felt ripped off majorly had I paid an arm and a leg to see that dreck -- thanks bettman you goon -- the NHLisation of the WHL has me very worried right now.

I wouldn't call Bettman a goon. Remember he likes non-physical hockey.

As do most fans right? :spineyes: :rolleyes:

rinkrat
11-07-2006, 08:42 AM
actually after watching tonights snoozefest -- I might have to agree with you rinkrat

I would have felt ripped off majorly had I paid an arm and a leg to see that dreck -- thanks bettman you goon -- the NHLisation of the WHL has me very worried right now.

Ya,my friend was trying to flog a ticket to me for,get this, $130 !!!!
hahahahahaha
Still can't believe people are suckered into that crap. :spineyes:

And I agree Dondo,I too am worried about the "NHLisation" of hockey.

dondo
11-07-2006, 08:00 PM
right you are Kassian -- although it was not meant in that way -- call him a goof then -- doesn't quite seem strong enough though .. and anything I really think of he and his cabal would get this post severely edited :thumb:

Hunt24
11-07-2006, 11:21 PM
yeah a great read -- and always good to hear about Paul - the fact that the Canucks didn't offer him a contract still makes me burn. I mean here's a player elevating their game in your backyard and you don't think its worth giving them a sniff?

No we gotta pick up a plumber like Fitz or a no-name like Tremblay.. lame -- beaucoup lame.

Good for Paul though.


Seems a little harsh no? Wasn't Mitch Bartley invited to Canucks prospect camp? Wasn't Dustin Slade at this years camp? The Canucks are under no obligation to treat Vancouver Giants players any different than any other player. Paul had a great final year with Vancouver. But he did do it as a 20-year old, playing against boys. We've all seen examples of guys staying in the WHL til their overage year only to rip it up and then stumble at the next level.
Adam Courchaine comes to mind. He's now toiling in Europe where the money is better than the ECHL.

Fitzpatrick and Tremblay, for all their faults, are veterans and most NHL teams would be happy to have them as their 6th or 7th guys - as they would be on the Canucks if Salo and Mitchell were both not out with injury. Paul didn't even make the AHL this year, but suddenly you're sliding him into the top 6 on a club preaching defense?

I know every Giants fan loves to pick on the Nucks, but I think this might be a little unjustified.

rinkrat
11-08-2006, 12:07 AM
I know every Giants fan loves to pick on the Nucks, but I think this might be a little unjustified.

This is the team who drafted a defenseman that was -39.LOL :spineyes:

old_time_hockey
11-08-2006, 01:23 AM
I think that Bartley could be producing at the same pace as Linden. For less $.

That is my big knock on the Nucks this year. They shouldn't have signed him. Give him a front office job for sure, but Trev...It's time to hang em up pal. Go out with your head high. Not looking like a washed up player searching for his youth.

Kassian
11-08-2006, 11:27 AM
right you are Kassian -- although it was not meant in that way -- call him a goof then -- doesn't quite seem strong enough though .. and anything I really think of he and his cabal would get this post severely edited :thumb:

I hear you completely. I try my very best to hold back especially around here but it isn't always easy.

Hunt24
11-08-2006, 02:56 PM
This is the team who drafted a defenseman that was -39.LOL :spineyes:

I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with this conversation, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many who think that drafting Bourdon was a mistake. He's 19 and currently in the NHL (most likely going back to junior) while Albers is 21 and in the ECHL.

langdak
11-08-2006, 03:10 PM
I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with this conversation, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many who think that drafting Bourdon was a mistake. He's 19 and currently in the NHL (most likely going back to junior) while Albers is 21 and in the ECHL.


Bourdon isnt a Canuck anymore

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20061108_142334_4008

To be honest, I have never been a Bourdon fan, watching him this year with the Canucks he just looked totally out of place.

rinkrat
11-08-2006, 06:35 PM
Going off topic here,but if you really want to laugh,check out the Orca's draft history.For those of you that didn't live through this nightmare!
At least you could afford a ticket when .500 hockey was the goal in Vancouver...

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr000039.html




1970
2 D Dale Tallon
16 D Jim Hargreaves
30 G Ed Dyck
44 R Brent Taylor
58 Bill McFadden
72 L Dave Gilmour
1971
3 D Jocelyn Guevremont
17 C Bobby Lalonde
39 Richard Lemieux
59 R Mike McNiven
73 D Tim Steeves
87 Bill Green
101 Norm Cherrey
102 F Bob Murphy
1972
3 F Don Lever
19 F Bryan McSheffrey
35 F Paul Raymer
51 F Ron Homenuke
67 D Larry Bolonchuk
83 G Dave McClelland
99 C Danny Gloor
115 D Dennis McCord
131 R Steve Stone

1973
3 Dennis Ververgaert
9 D Bob Dailey
19 C Paulin Bordeleau
35 L Paul Sheard
51 Keith Mackie
67 C Paul O'Neil
83 F Jim Cowell
99 G Clay Hebenton
115 John Senkpiel
131 D Peter Folco
146 C Terry McDougall
1974
23 Ron Sedlbauer
41 D John Hughes
59 D Harold Snepsts
77 C Mike Rogers
95 Andy Spruce
113 D Jim Clarke
130 F Robbie Watt
147 D Marc Gaudreault
1975
10 R Rick Blight
28 L Brad Gassoff
46 G Normand LaPointe
64 Glen Richardson
82 Doug Murray
100 Bob Watson
118 C Brian Shmyr
136 L Allan Fleck
152 L Bob McNeice
182 C Sid Veysey

1976
26 F Bob Manno
44 L Rob Flockhart
62 Elmer Ray
80 Rick Durston
98 F Rob Tudor
114 C Brad Rhiness
122 C Stu Ostlund
1977
4 F Jere Gillis
22 D Jeff Bandura
40 G Glen Hanlon
56 D Dave Morrow
58 G Murray Bannerman
76 L Steve Hazlett
94 Brian Drumm
112 Ray Creasy
1978
4 F Bill Derlago
22 L Curt Fraser
40 F Stan Smyl
56 Harold Luckner
57 F Brad Smith
90 C Gerry Minor
107 R Dave Ross
124 W Steve O'Neill
141 Charlie Antetomaso
158 G Rick Martens

1979
5 R Rick Vaive
26 F Brent Ashton
47 G Ken Ellacott
68 F Art Rutland
89 F Dirk Graham
110 Shane Swan
1980
7 D Rick Lanz
49 D Andy Schliebener
70 L Marc Crawford
91 G Darrell May
112 W Ken Berry
133 D Doug Lidster
154 John O'Connor
175 F Patrik Sundstrom
196 F Grant Martin
1981
10 D Garth Butcher
52 R Jean-Marc Lanthier
73 G Wendell Young
105 F Moe Lemay
115 R Stu Kulak
136 D Bruce Holloway
157 F Petri Skriko
178 G Frank Caprice
199 F Rejean Vignola

1982
11 D Michel Petit
53 Yves Lapointe
71 G Shawn Kilroy
116 R Taylor Hall
137 D Parie Proft
158 W Newell Brown
179 R Don McLaren
200 Al Raymond
221 L Steve Driscoll
242 Shawn Green
1983
9 F Cam Neely
30 L David Bruce
50 F Scott Tottle
70 Tim Lorenz
90 Doug Quinn
110 L Dave Lowry
130 Terry Maki
150 John Labatt
170 D Allan Measures
190 Roger Grillo
210 D Steve Kayser
230 R Jay Mazur
1984
10 D J.J. Daigneault
31 C Jeff Rohlicek
52 L David Saunders
55 F Landis Chaulk
58 L Mike Stevens
73 D Brian Bertuzzi
94 D Brett MacDonald
115 Jeff Korchinski
136 Blaine Chrest
157 D Jim Agnew
178 G Rex Grant
198 Ed Lowney
219 D Doug Clarke
239 Ed Kister

1985
4 R Jim Sandlak
25 G Troy Gamble
46 D Shane Doyle
67 Randy Siska
88 C Robert Kron
109 Martin Hrstka
130 Brian McFarlane
151 R Hakan Ahlund
172 D Curtis Hunt
193 D Carl Valimont
214 C Igor Larionov
235 Darren Taylor
1986
7 C Dan Woodley
49 D Don Gibson
70 R Ronnie Stern
91 C Eric Murano
112 D Steve Herniman
133 L Jon Helgeson
154 Jeff Noble
175 G Matt Merten
196 D Marc Lyons
217 L Todd Hawkins
238 F Vladimir Krutov
1987
24 C Rob Murphy
45 D Steve Veilleux
66 R Doug Torrel
87 Sean Fabian
108 L Garry Valk
129 G Todd Fanning
150 Viktor Tumeneu
171 Craig Daly
192 G John Fletcher
213 F Roger Hansson
233 C Neil Eisenhut
234 L Matt Evo

1988
2 C Trevor Linden
33 Leif Rohlin
44 R Dane Jackson
107 G Corrie D'Alessio
122 D Phil Von Stefenelli
128 R Dixon Ward
149 C Greg Geldart
170 D Roger Akerstrom
191 L Paul Constantin
212 D Chris Wolanin
233 C Stefan Nilsson
1989
8 D Jason Herter
29 L Rob Woodward
71 D Brett Hauer
113 R Pavel Bure
134 R Jim Revenberg
155 L Rob Sangster
176 R Sandy Moger
197 G Gus Morschauser
218 D Hayden O'Rear
239 C Darcy Cahill
248 Jan Bergman
1990
2 L Petr Nedved
18 L Shawn Antoski
23 D Jiri Slegr
65 L Darin Bader
86 L Gino Odjick
128 D Daryl Filipek
149 D Paul O'Hagan
170 D Mark Cipriano
191 D Troy Neumeier
212 C Tyler Ertel
233 D Karri Kivi

1991
7 R Alek Stojanov
29 D Jassen Cullimore
51 C Sean Pronger
95 R Dan Kesa
117 D Evgeny Namestnikov
139 L Brent Thurston
161 R Eric Johnson
183 L David Neilson
205 D Brad Barton
227 G Jason Fitzsimmons
249 C Xavier Majic
1992
21 C Libor Polasek
40 C Mike Peca
45 G Mike Fountain
69 R Jeff Connolly
93 D Brent Tully
110 R Brian Loney
117 D Adrian Aucoin
141 L Jason Clark
165 R Scott Hollis
213 G Sonny Mignacca
237 D Mark Wotton
261 D Aaron Boh
1993
20 D Mike Wilson
46 C Rick Girard
98 G Dieter Kochan
124 R Scott Walker
150 Troy Creuer
176 Evgeny Babariko
202 R Sean Tallaire
254 D Bert Robertsson
280 G Sergei Tkachenko

1994
13 D Mattias Ohlund
39 C Robb Gordon
42 C Dave Scatchard
65 D Chad Allan
92 Mike Dubinsky
117 C Yanick Dube
169 C Yuri Kuznetsov
195 R Rob Trumbley
221 W Bill Muckalt
247 L Tyson Nash
273 Robert Longpre
1995
40 D Chris McAllister
61 L Larry Courville
66 L Peter Schaefer
92 D Lloyd Shaw
120 L Todd Norman
144 D Brent Sopel
170 C Stu Bodtker
196 R Tyler Willis
222 G Jason Cugnet
1996
12 C Josh Holden
75 D Zenith Komarniski
93 R Jonas Soling
121 R Tyler Prosofsky
147 G Nolan McDonald
175 D Clint Cabana
201 C Jeff Scissons
227 C Lubomir Vaic

1997
10 D Brad Ference
34 D Ryan Bonni
36 C Harold Druken
64 L Kyle Freadrich
90 C Chris Stanley
114 David Darguzas
117 G Matt Cockell
144 L Matt Cooke
148 R Larry Shapley
171 Rod Leroux
201 L Denis Martynyuk
227 G Peter Brady
1998
4 D Bryan Allen
31 C Artem Chubarov
68 L Jarkko Ruutu
81 R Justin Morrison
90 D Regan Darby
136 David Jonsson
140 Rick Bertran
149 R Paul Cabana
177 R Vince Malts
204 C Graig Mischler
219 L Curtis Valentine
232 D Jason Metcalfe
1999
2 L Daniel Sedin
3 C Henrik Sedin
69 D Rene Vydareny
129 L Ryan Thorpe
172 D Josh Reed
189 G Kevin Swanson
218 D Markus Kankaanpera
271 D Darrell Hay

2000
23 C Nathan Smith
71 C Thatcher Bell
93 D Tim Branham
144 F Pavel Duma
208 C Brandon Reid
241 C Nathan Barrett
272 C Tim Smith
2001
16 C R.J. Umberger
66 C Fedor Fedorov
114 R Evgeny Gladskikh
151 D Kevin Bieksa
212 L Jason King
245 F Konstantin Mikhailov
2002
49 D Kirill Koltsov
55 D Denis Grot
68 D Brett Skinner
83 G Lukas Mensator
114 F John Laliberte
151 G Robert McVicar
214 L Marc-Andre Roy
223 F Ilya Krikunov
247 G Matt Violin
277 Thomas Nussli
278 R Matt Gens

2003
23 C Ryan Kesler
60 R Marc-Andre Bernier
111 C Brandon Nolan
128 L Ty Morris
160 L Nicklas Danielsson
190 D Chad Brownlee
222 C Francois-Pierre Guenet
252 F Sergei Topol
254 D Nathan McIver
285 D Matthew Hansen
2004
26 G Cory Schneider
91 D Alexander Edler
125 L Andrew Sarauer
159 R Mike Brown
189 G Julien Ellis
254 D David Schulz
287 W Jannik Hansen
2005
10 D Luc Bourdon
51 W Mason Raymond
114 G Alexandre Vincent
138 C Matt Butcher
185 D Kris Fredheim
205 C Mario Bliznak

2006
14 R Michael Grabner
82 D Daniel Rahimi
163 W Sergei Shirokov
167 W Juraj Simek
197 R Evan Fuller

dondo
11-08-2006, 08:14 PM
^ yeah I've done that too -- what's even more frightening is looking at who was drafted after the picks in the various years and then you really start to feel ill. :dead: :laugh: :(

yeah it might be a bit unfair H24, but the Nucks have awful scouts, and tend to either draft from Sweden, the Q, or somewhere is the Michigan/Minnesota area.

hardly any from the dub, or other areas -- it might not have always been that way, but lately that's where the majority of the top three rounds of picks have come from..

anyway - considering this has turned into a bit of canucks thread

here's some news from the NHL club


Aquilini Investment Group Purchases John E. McCaw's Interest in the Vancouver Canucks and General Motors Place
Wed. Nov 8, 2006

Vancouver, B.C. � The Aquilini Investment Group owned by Francesco, Roberto and Paolo Aquilini, have entered into an agreement to purchase the remaining 50 percent share of the Vancouver Canucks and General Motors Place that is owned by John E. McCaw Jr.. The Aquilini Investment Group will own 100 percent of the Canucks and General Motors Place.

�Today�s announcement is exciting for our family and we are proud that we will be the 100 percent owners of this great franchise and world class facility,� said Francesco Aquilini, a Managing Director, Aquilini Investment Group. �We would like to thank John McCaw for his tremendous efforts as owner of the club since 1994. He has shown great commitment to this city and to this team. The business of hockey in Vancouver is very strong now and John McCaw deserves credit for that.�

�I thank the outstanding fans of the Canucks in Vancouver and throughout British Columbia for their passion and their support for the team, � said John E. McCaw Jr. �Owning the Canucks has been an honour and I am proud of the work the organization has done in Vancouver over the years. I am confident that the business is in a very strong position moving forward. The Aquilini family is committed to making the Canucks the best organization in the NHL. I know I am leaving the team in good hands.�

The Aquilini Investment Group originally purchased 50 percent of the Canucks and General Motors Place on November 16, 2004. Formal League approval took place on March 9, 2005. The transaction between the Aquilini Investment Group and McCaw is expected to close early in 2007. The sale is subject to NHL approval.

The Aquilini Investment Group is a multifaceted family business, which was founded by Mr. Luigi Aquilini, almost 50 years ago. Aquilini Investment Group has built a successful private family business with real estate holdings and operating entities located in almost all major cities across Canada.

Aquilini Investment Group's Head Office is in Vancouver, B.C.