vc178 I am more than a little curious what you more knowledgeable fans think about the Giants. I should start by saying that I "watch" the games. I don't analyze the games and penalties have to be pretty obvious for me to get too excited over them. That said, when we played them on Friday I was pretty impressed. I thought that they just played really hard hitting hockey. Except for Hunt I really didn't experience any major annoyances. Sunday was a TOTALLY different story. I got the impression that they didn't come out so much to play hockey, as they showed up to see how many of our guys they could leave laying on the ice and hopefully put out of the series! They whined constantly. Any time there was a break one of them was skating around with a ref or a linesman, holding their hand and crying big crocodile tears about something. The linesmen were on them every face off 'cuz they couldn't behave themselves. Hunt never shut his mouth once (I'll bet that kid talks in his sleep!). Bouma kept trying to egg on the smaller guys. After the game Hunt and Bouma actually waited on the ice as they still weren't done jacking their jaws. So tell me people - which one is the REAL Giants team? - the hard hitting players? or the crybaby bullies?