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    Default 2011 WHL Draft

    Looks like the Canes have "earned" two picks in the top 4 overall. Having Regina's 1st Rd pick as well, this is a pretty good consolation prize for giving up the incomplete Carter Ashton. Hopefully the scouting staff has done their homework. I noticed in The Hockey News that Klimchuk is the highest ranked player from the West for that age group! Hopefully Merkley is just as worthy down the road since both were in ISS's Top 10 WHL Rankings last spring, as seen below.

    Here is an early top 10 list for this year's upcoming WHL draft based on the ISS Rankings (as well as 2009 and 2010 lists for comparison). They seem accurate since they ranked Forsberg first last year and Dumba first the year before. Most of us would agree with those choices. In 2010, the Canes impressively selected 4 of the top 30 guys!

    Wow do I feel very old when I see 1996 born kids being drafted... ha ha

    2011 List
    NAME POS DOB S HT WT TEAM LEAGUE
    1. Oleksyn, Braden LW 2/22/96 L 5.10 170 Beardy’s SMHL
    2. Simpson, Riley C 7/23/96 L 5.09.5 140 SSAC AMBHL
    3. Pankewicz, Kord LD 2/3/96 L 5.10 169 Leduc AMBHL
    4. Duke, Reid C 1/28/96 L 5.10 160 Royal Gold AMBHL
    5. Thrower, Josh RD 3/17/96 R 5.11 172 POE T1 - T1 OMBT1
    6. Sandhu, Tyler C 1/7/96 R 5.11 148 Seafair A1-T1 PCBHL
    7. Quenneville, John LW 4/16/96 L 6.00 180 SSAC AMBHL
    8. Hicketts, Joe RD 5/4/96 L 5.06 169 Kamloops T1-T1 OMBT1
    9. Pilon, Ryan LD 10/10/96 L 6.01 168 Warman C4Ban
    10. Mappin, Ty C 1/25/96 L 5.10 154 Red Deer White AMBHL



    ISS Final Rankings / 2010 WHL Draft

    # / Name / Pos / Birth / Date / Ht. / Wgt. / Team / League
    1 / Alex Forsberg / C / 4-Jan-95 / 5.10 / 170 / Beardy’s MAAA / SMHL
    2 / Brian Williams / C / 10-Jan-95 / 5.08 / 141 / LA Selects / CalifBant
    3 / Matthew Needham / C / 17-Apr-95 / 5.09 / 170 / Penticton / B1-T1 / OMBT1
    4 / Madison Bowey / RD / 22-Apr-95 / 5.11 / 168 / Winn. Monarchs / WBD1
    5 / Morgan Klimchuk / C / 2-Mar-95 / 5.10 / 155 / Calgary Bisons / AMBHL
    6 / Tyler King-Cunnigham / LD / 18-Feb-95 / 6.00 / 174 / Notre Dame / SSBHL
    7 / Joshua Morrissey / LD / 28-Mar-95 / 5.11 / 165 / Calgary Royals / AMBHL
    8 / Joel Topping / LD / 10-Mar-95 / 6.00 / 170 / Red Deer Black / AMBHL
    9 / Johnathon Merkley / C / 27-May-95 / 5.11 / 162 / Calgary Bisons / AMBHL
    10 / Cory Millette / RW / 19-Jan-95 / 5.09 / 168 / Notre Dame / SSBHL
    11 / Tyson Baillie / C / 16-Nov-95 / 5.08 / 148 / Fort Sask. / AMBHL
    12 / Curtis Lazar / C / 2-Feb-95 / 5.10 / 159 / POE T1 / BCBant
    13 / Anthony Ast / C / 11-Feb-95 / 5.08 / 165 / BWC A1-T1 / PCBHL
    14 / Nic Petan / C / 22-Mar-95 / 5.06 / 133 / NSWC A1-T1 / PCBHL
    15 / Jesse Lees / RD / 14-Sept-95 / 5.11 / 168 / Calgary North. / AMBHL
    16 / Wyatt Noskey / C / 22-Jan-95 / 5.10 / 153 / Edmonton KC / AMBHL
    17 / Jaedon Descheneau / C / 22-Feb-95 / 5.07 / 145 / Leduc Oil Kings / AMBHL
    18 / Craig Leverton / C / 2-Jan-95 / 5.10 / 170 / Warman / C4Ban
    19 / Dylan Bowen / RD / 4-Apr-95 / 5.10 / 141 / POE T1 / BCBant
    20 / Kayle Doetzel / RD / 19-Jun-95 / 6.01 / 175 / West Central / C4Ban
    21 / Clay Spencer / F / 15-Feb-95 / 6.00 / 155 / Lethbridge / AMBHL
    22 / Gregory Chase / C / 1-Jan-95 / 5.10 / 164 / Sherwood Park / AMBHL
    23 / Raymond Grewal / LD / 7-Oct-95 / 6.01 / 160 / Prince George / BCTC
    24 / Tyler Fuhr / G / 30-May-95 / 5.11 / 150 / Sherwood Park / AMBHL
    25 / Scott Savage / LD / 11-Apr-95 / 5.11 / 150 / LA Selects / CalifBant
    26 / Jamal Watson / RW / 14-Jan-95 / 5.09 / 138 / Calgary Bronks / AMBHL
    27 / Tim McGauley / F / 23-Jul-95 / 5.10.5 / 150 / Lumsden/Beth. / SSBHL
    28 / Chad Labelle / C / 3-Jul-95 / 5.09 / 165 / Calg. Northstars / AMBHL
    29 / Ryan Miner / G / 14-Mar-95 / 5.11 / 150 / Win. Monarchs / WBD1
    30 / Torrin White / RW / 18-Feb-95 / 5.09 / 150 / Airdrie Xtreme / AMBHL

    Note: From what I hear, the US players and resident (such as Notre Dame) players get drafted lower than expected due to their higher risk of commiting to the NCAA.

    2009 WHL Bantam Draft ISS Top 20 Rankings

    RNK POS / NAME / CLUB
    1 / RD / DUMBA, Matt / Calgary Bronks
    2 / F / RANKIN, Connor / North Shore Winter Club
    3 / F / WINTHER, Michael / Airdrie Xtreme
    4 / LD / RIELLY, Morgan / Notre Dame Hounds
    5 / D / WALTERS, Nicolas / St. Albert Sabres
    6 / F / BALOG, Tayler / Weyburn Mission Wings
    7 / D / SMITH, Joshua / Red Deer Black
    8 / F / GEIGER, Trent / Calgary Royals
    9 / D / POULIOT, Derrick / Weyburn Mission Wings
    10 / F / JONES, Seth / Dallas Stars U16

    Source: Someone who leaked them to the public from ISS's well-run site!

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    Those rankings are way off!!!

    First of all, Pilon is going top 3.

    Riley Simpson is going the college route.

    Oleksyn is going late first round, not first overall...Not even close.

    Josh Thrower is a 2nd rounder at best.

    Tyler Sandhu is now a 2nd rounder.

    WHERE IN THE WORLD IS JAKE VIRTANEN from ABBOTSFORD???? He will be a sure fire top 4-5 pick.

    WHERE IS JORDAN THOMSON from manitoba who plays Midget AAA as an underage?

    THis list is so far off, I'd say to use it as ass wipe at best.

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    Default what the hell were you thinking canes 77..........

    why in gods name would you put such a goofy list together?..i think you should go sit in your room for a while and think about what you have done, or even better try to make us understand why JORDAN THOMSON or JAKE VIRTANEN aren't on that list......we'll let this one go but you better think about what you are doing from now on................ps......dont use it for ass wipe the ink could rub off and it could get messy..........
    Last edited by shushu; 03-19-2011 at 01:25 PM.
    GO CANES GO.................

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    Default Canes top 5 picks 2010

    If those !SS rankings in 2010 were fairly accurate, then the Canes did quite well in the draft. We chose 2 of the top 10 and 4 of the top 26 players on that list.

    ISS Final Rankings / 2010 WHL Draft

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    8 ... Joel Topping / LD / 10-Mar-95 / 6.00 / 170 / Red Deer Black / AMBHL.......................Canes pick at #41
    9 ... Johnathon Merkley / C / 27-May-95 / 5.11 / 162 / Calgary Bisons / AMBHL................Canes pick at #3
    18 ... Craig Leverton / C / 2-Jan-95 / 5.10 / 170 / Warman / C4Ban...............................Canes pick at #25
    26 ... Jamal Watson / RW / 14-Jan-95 / 5.09 / 138 / Calgary Bronks / AMBHL...................Canes pick at #103

    We also picked Macoy Erkamps at #27, but he is not on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shushu View Post
    why in gods name would you put such a goofy list together?..i think you should go sit in your room for a while and think about what you have done, or even better try to make us understand why JORDAN THOMSON or JAKE VIRTANEN aren't on that list......we'll let this one go but you better think about what you are doing from now on................ps......dont use it for ass wipe the ink could rub off and it could get messy..........
    Ha ha shushu
    If you guys read my post, you'll know that I DIDN'T make the list - I just posted someone elses rankings. I posted their 2010 and 2009 list as well because they looked fairly accurate wouldn't you agree?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Spy View Post
    Those rankings are way off!!!

    First of all, Pilon is going top 3.

    Riley Simpson is going the college route.

    Oleksyn is going late first round, not first overall...Not even close.

    Josh Thrower is a 2nd rounder at best.

    Tyler Sandhu is now a 2nd rounder.

    WHERE IN THE WORLD IS JAKE VIRTANEN from ABBOTSFORD???? He will be a sure fire top 4-5 pick.

    WHERE IS JORDAN THOMSON from manitoba who plays Midget AAA as an underage?

    THis list is so far off, I'd say to use it as ass wipe at best.
    Hockey Spy... way off eh?
    Lets see your top 10 list... along with some more facts why the list I posted is so terrible.

    How do you know Thrower and Sandhu are going in the 2nd round? You must know a scout from all 22 clubs eh?
    Maybe Thomson and Virtanen are 11th and 12th on the list. Or maybe not. Maybe Virtanen's size is the reason he isn't higher up. Yes, he is very fast and very skilled, but also only listed at 5'8, 145... Not one player who was 5'8 or less was drafted in the top 15 last year.
    You're right on Thomson, he is in Midget AAA as a 14 year old. But, so is Oleksyn, who scored over a point per game in Sask Midget AAA this year on Beardy's (A similar season to Alex Forsberg the year before).
    The differences for Thomson is that he was on a top team (31-8-0-5 record) yet only got 2 goals all year as a D-man. Plus, him being from Manitoba doesn't help at all, traditionally by far the weakest of the 4 provinces in terms of prospects.


    Post your list, I want to see how well you do in May.

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    In my opinion and also in all my contacts opinions, the list is way off. Even worse than they have been in past years.

    As for Jake Virtanen, no, he is not 5'8, he is now 5'11 170 pounds and could probably grow another inch or two yet. He will be taking place at the BC provincials starting today and if you get a chance to watch him, you'll then realize why I make the comment I make. Saying Virtanen will not in the to 10 would be like saying St. Croix or Rattie didn't belong there in there draft years. As a matter of fact, ISS had Rattie at 10th overall for the draft. Mark McNeill they didn't even have in the first round!

    As far as Thrower and Sandhu go. Josh Thrower is a very good, stay at home, hard hitting defenseman. Probably comparable to Ayrton Nikkel who Saskatoon gave up as part of the Schenn deal. Nikkel went late 2nd round. Thrower could go a bit before Nikkel but likely early 2nd. As for Sandhu, Tyler is a player who really peaked in Peewee hockey and was dominant. However, in the past couple years, players have caught him and he was a very disappointing player to most scouts in the big St. Albert tournament. He also was less than stellar in the BC bantam playoffs. Some scouts have Sandhu down in the 3rd round actually. I'm not ready to put him that low but 2nd round is where he should go.

    As for Jordan Thomson. The kid is a big 6'1 defenseman who can skate very well, make a tremendous first pass and play a rough game. He has all the tools. Braden Oleksyn was considered to be a top 5 pick prior to the season starting. However, his skating is a huge question mark and he is done growing now. I've spoken with a few head scouts who say they wouldn't pick him if he was there late first round.

    On a separate note - There are several players 5'7 and under who will make for some tremendous scorers in the WHL but may slip.

    Brayden Point - Calgary Bisons - led the league
    Tyler Wong - He is only 5`7 but my opinion is that he could crack the top 10 anyway. He plays in Airdrie
    Tanner MacMaster - Calgary Bisons
    Adam Brooks - Winnipeg Hawks
    Kolten Olynyk - Saskatoon Outlaws
    Rourke Chartier - Saskatoon Generals

    One player who could be taken high that isn`t on this list is Taylor Fisher from Winnipeg. If his skating would improve he`d be a force. Led all Winnipeg bantam dmen in scoring and is 6`2 220lb already. I`m also a bit surprised they don`t have Ryan Gropp on the list from Kamloops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canes77 View Post
    I noticed in The Hockey News that Klimchuk is the highest ranked player from the West for that age group! Hopefully Merkley is just as worthy down the road since both were in ISS's Top 10 WHL Rankings last spring!
    Do you have a link to that list? Was Merkley on the list?

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    Merkley is a better two-way player than Klimchuk and was last year in bantam with the Bisons who made it to westerns.

    Merkley is a very fluid skater and a pass first type of player. Possibly a future captain.

    Interesting to note that Merkley`s younger brother had an outstanding rookie bantam year with the Bisons and should make noise for the 2012 WHL bantam draft. His name is Nick Merkley.

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    Not to dispute that the lists do have some very knowledgable hockey people rating these players but when push comes to shove it will be the performances starting in Manitoba next weekend that will make the final selections for some of the directors of player personel, as well as the camps in Anaheim and in Minnisota this spring the final cog in the wheels. The good thing about this is that for those teams on the outside this year looking in they have the opportunity to have both their directors of hockey personal and if they want their gm and coachs in attendence. Each team always says they look in the first round for the best player available but realistically if the next two guys are close and you need an offesive dman that what you choose even or an extremly commpetent forward, if you need a goal tender for a game winner when you dont have any in the system that is what you choose. At the end of the day it is your best guess and then you have to be sure he will report . May the luck that we missed this year in all those 1 goal games change and may we get lucky in the lottery pool when the 4 of us go into the pool with 2 chances . Thankfully we did not get involved in the trade deadline escapes.

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