2013/14 Roster

[RWAH]

This a week or two early but its a month to training camp and I have some time now so I will start it off. looking only at the PPL
As a result of the strength of the draft of 97 born player (2012 draft) the roster could include 4 or 5 16 year olds this season and with the talent and size of this year draft another 3, 4 or 5 16 year old players next year and that is very encouraging for 3 and 4 seasons from now.
Tenders:
Sacher, Beukeboom, and McCauley all 19 will compete for the starters job. Gora (17) and Schneider (16) will battle for the back up. The WHL has a rule that any 16 year old must play 40 games and if that includes tenders I think that would rule out Schneider unless just being dressed and on the bench counts. They drafted another 6 foot tender (Chapman) this year but he is not eligible to play this season.
D-Fence:
Burroughs (18), Williams (18), Sinitsyn (19) for sure. Either Fensky or Holland both (20) will fill one spot. Brady Reagan (16) and Robbie Fulton (16) are both serious contenders and that is 6 d-men. the remaining will fill the 1 or 2 spots (16s) Brendan Kallis, James Hilsendager, (17s) Chase Harrison, Eric Donald, Griffen Mumby, (18s) Tye Hand (19s) Steven Hak, Darian Henry, Kade Pilton and 3 college players Nolan DeJong, Alec cCrea and Brady Skjei.
that make 12 players for 2 spots. I thought at the spring camp Kallis was very steady, stay at home d-man and very coachable but that would be 3 16s and the 40 game rule be very restrictive for juggling the lineup. Either Hak or Hand (I get them cunfussed) showed a lot of improvement last year so should be concidered.
Forwards:
(20s) Dyson Stevenson and Trent Ouellette, (19s) Chandler Stephenson, Jack Rodewald, Carson Samoridny, Marc McCoy, (18s) Mogan Klimchuk, Braden Christoffer, Goerdie McGuire, a question mark Dryden Hunt. (17s) Adam Brooks, Maxmillan Klammerer. If you add 2 (16s) Ryker Cole, Rylee Zimmer, Adam Berg and Colton Kroeker have a leg up for those spots but the remaining (16s) have a chance Liam Finlay, Drew Litwin, Jared McAmmond, Angus Scott and Austin Wagner. 2 (17s) forwards are on the PPL Bryar Ortynsky and Dane Schiolerand and 19 year old Patrick D'Amico.
The first gruop with 2 (16s) and Hunt is 14 forwards, so only 1 or 2 spots up for grabs. I could see a trade of a tender for a (17) forward
Lots to ponder and looks what could be a very competitive camp. The team could have 4 (16s) this season.
Look forward to all you posters thoughts and comments
GO PATS GO

[RWAH]

Missed one forward in Conner Gay an 18 but he will need a good camp to keep a roster spot.

[patsdude114]

I don't believe Hollan has any intentions of coming to the CHL unless his NHL drafted team wants him here (which I doubt) as for Fenske I don't see much of a point in keeping him around as a 20yr old as Hak & Hand provide the exact same role & don't fill a 20yr old spot. Fenske didn't bring any toughness at all last year, not 1 fight it was like he was disinterested to even be here last year.

Christoffer is a 19yr old this year I believe & should be able to fit into a top 6 role as he really came on in the 2nd half & found his groove. We should have a nice big line this year in McCoy, Rodewald & Samoridny that is if Cameron plays them all together as believe they are all rightys as well.

I think there is more then just a couple forward spots up for grabs, I'm not sold on Ouellett making as a 20yr old either I think there is room for an upgrade but it won't hurt my feelings if he is back either Gay, D'Amico, Ortynski & possibly even Brooks will be hard pressed to keep there roster spots.

I think we will have a good top 3 on our backend lead by Burroughs with castoffs of Williams, & that Russian to follow suit. Hak I believe will make this team as well but I believe every other spot is wide open & 1 of those spots belongs to Reagan already so 3 spots (most likely as we tend to carry 8 Dmen a lot) are wide open for the picking.

Lang will make a trade during camp/preseason, to open up a roster spot or 2, we have a returning roster that are capable of playing in the WHL (except maybe Ortnyski) just won't be all on our team.

This year camp will be very interesting as there is so many different looks our roster could look like with a strong group of 16 & 17yr olds looking to crack the roster. I think a couple of 16yr olds left off the roster last year are going to prove a lot in camp that they shouldn't of been over looked last year. IMO no way Ortynski & Mumby make our team this year.

Our goalie situation is prob going to be the most interesting to watch unfold. We got 3 19yr olds competing for the starting job & only so much crease time to prove they want it. I'm sure 1 will be dealt to play a regular spot on another team & then 1 will be flat out released off the PPL.

I'm still very confident that we will be in the 5th/6th spot next year be year end, I don't see us having such an injury plagued season again like last year & Stephenson & Klimchuk will be a tough dual to stop. Klimchuk will score 45+ this year (yes I'm saying it) he is going to benefit a lot from Cameron's style of coaching compared to Conacher's chip n chase game plan.

[RWAH]

Think we agree on most: but I think Fulton is a lock on d, he is 6 ft 4 in 185 lbs last year AAA midget averaged a half point a game and a chip on his shoulder with 103 PIMs, a rough tough d-man, we can use.
Fenske last year ended as a plus 7 while Hand is minus 2 and Hak a minus 7. I think Fenske played more time against the other teams top lines than Hak or Hand. He was not showy but his stats show he got the job done
You could be right about Brooks I just thought there was a lot of improvement in his game as the year went on and hopefully he worked this off season to get stronger.
As you mentioned Cameron's style for the team should be more puck possession and that will allow the skilled players to develop and to shine.
Holland was a recent add on to the PPL so I assume they have some inside info that he will be leaving the NCAA. He was injured most of last year but the only way he makes the club is to beat out Fenske for a 20 d-man.

[Bepoleon]

I believe Holland has been on the PPL list for a couple years now. I think they kept on the list because college enlisted players do not count as part of the 50 (I could be wrong).

[patsdude114]

I believe Holland has been on the PPL list for a couple years now. I think they kept on the list because college enlisted players do not count as part of the 50 (I could be wrong).

Holland was on the Pats PPL before he got drafted & enrolled into the NCAA which you are correct he doesn't count towards the PPL cause of that reason but he is still the Pats property should he reconsider a CHL route for his final year of being able too (which is highly unlikely)

As for the Fenske comment yes he does play a hard nose game don't get me wrong I love his game in the D zone but when he gets that puck on his stick he is no better then Mumby was/is...... Hak has that flare with the puck he makes a lot of good plays with it. The +/- stat can be a very over-rated stat at times but with that said Fenske should of had a better stat as Hand & Hak were virtually raw rookies last ywith very little experience