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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANE'S ROCK View Post
    I just typed a very detailed post about the Canes keeping their 2nd overall 2015 draft pick after today's WHL Bantam Draft Lottery and how Bellerive was our 2nd overall pick last year etc. Somehow it disappeared so here is the short version.

    *Canes will pick 2nd in this years Bantam draft.
    *They didn't get bumped down as the #1 team Spokane/S'toon won the lottery.
    *There does not appear to be a clear cut #1 so picking 2nd is great.
    *Canes also picked 2nd last year and took Jordy Bellerive.
    *Bellerive and his family have not signed with the Canes as of today.
    *Anholt says they are close to signing Bellerive. Refer the Lethbridge Herald article. Link is below.
    *I have it from 2 inside sources a month ago, Bellerive has told Canes he will not sign with them.
    *He will play his 16 year old season with the BCJHL Penticton Vees and keep all of his options open.
    *Next year he can then sign with the Canes or go the NCAA route.
    *Will the Canes be able to sign some of their other top picks? Many have not signed yet.
    *Who will the Canes draft this year? A defenseman perhaps.

    http://lethbridgeherald.com/sports/h...k-says-anholt/
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    If it is indeed true that he's close with Bellerive signing that is good news but I'll only believe it when we see it. Peter has many other tasks to deal with in the very near future as well, those including :

    1. fending off the questions/rubber bullets at the info session on monday
    2. Signing other prospects from last year and prior years
    3. doing some serious homework on who they will be going after this year in the draft
    4. finding a coach - better hurry cause Giants are looking too and their purse is a little deeper.
    5. Finding a head scout


    Good luck Pete! Seriously... good luck

  2. #52
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    Effectively the Canes are marginally (and I mean marginally) ahead of where they were last season at this time. Sure, they fired some people, elected some new people, didn't listen to Robison after the town hall meeting last spring, started this season with the same management and leadership as last season, then, with the threat of more defections at the Christmas break (with the playoffs already out of reach) they finally make a change? To little, to late! Make the change last off season as Robison suggested, they are playing in the first round of this year's post season? Then, Robison says he wants a meeting shortly into the new year, again falls on arrogant deaf ears, board again decides they have the answers and blow off any type of meeting? So, a few decisions get made, a few new people but the Culture essentially looks and feels exactly the same! Tonight will be nothing more than smoke and mirrors, sunshine and lolly pops...for a brief moment, it sorta looked and felt like Paisley may have been on the right track but realistically, he's not a hockey guy and so the insanity continues, this franchise will never have any real success again until there is a proven hockey guy at the top of the heep, someone that knows ***t from shenola, someone who has experience and is capable of recognizing other good hockey people i.e. coaches, head scouts and the like as well as able to make good decisions within the non hockey operations side of the game? You can do all the marketing you want, you can have all the special game day events you want? At the end of the day, it will be the on ice product that will be the biggest factor within the ultimate success of this franchise. At the end of last season there was a real opportunity to improve the overall product and the opportunity was again squandered? As far as Bellerive is concerned, it has to be highly doubtful that his camp experienced enough improvement within any element of this franchise that would allow them to sign and commit Jordan's development here? If Anholt is telling the media that they are close to signing...add lots of salt...LOL
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by sid75 View Post
    Effectively the Canes are marginally (and I mean marginally) ahead of where they were last season at this time. Sure, they fired some people, elected some new people, didn't listen to Robison after the town hall meeting last spring, started this season with the same management and leadership as last season, then, with the threat of more defections at the Christmas break (with the playoffs already out of reach) they finally make a change? To little, to late! Make the change last off season as Robison suggested, they are playing in the first round of this year's post season? Then, Robison says he wants a meeting shortly into the new year, again falls on arrogant deaf ears, board again decides they have the answers and blow off any type of meeting? So, a few decisions get made, a few new people but the Culture essentially looks and feels exactly the same! Tonight will be nothing more than smoke and mirrors, sunshine and lolly pops...for a brief moment, it sorta looked and felt like Paisley may have been on the right track but realistically, he's not a hockey guy and so the insanity continues, this franchise will never have any real success again until there is a proven hockey guy at the top of the heep, someone that knows ***t from shenola, someone who has experience and is capable of recognizing other good hockey people i.e. coaches, head scouts and the like as well as able to make good decisions within the non hockey operations side of the game? You can do all the marketing you want, you can have all the special game day events you want? At the end of the day, it will be the on ice product that will be the biggest factor within the ultimate success of this franchise. At the end of last season there was a real opportunity to improve the overall product and the opportunity was again squandered? As far as Bellerive is concerned, it has to be highly doubtful that his camp experienced enough improvement within any element of this franchise that would allow them to sign and commit Jordan's development here? If Anholt is telling the media that they are close to signing...add lots of salt...LOL
    You obviously have no clue about Paisley who is the closest thing to a hockey guy the BOD has ever had as a president. He is also very well connected in the hockey world. He and the board have been true to their word, they've been very transparent and are looking out for what is best for the Hurricanes organization.

  4. #54

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    Sorry Sutton. McNaughton has a better -- much better -- hockey resume than Doug Paisley. See how that worked out? If you asked him, even Paisley would admit that McNaughton's experience at the provincial, AAA and WHL level trump his.
    Paisley's strength is in NOT meddling constantly, and he should be cheered for it.

    Once you start thinking you're a hockey guy, you become just another board member constantly offering a coach or GM your opinion. That's how it used to be, BMs always pulling coaches, GMs and players in 100 different directions.

    Too many CEOs, not enough guys doing work.

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    Started a light-hearted but (hopefully) thoughtful Canes blog today.

    Would love to traffic and your thoughts. I will keep posting content but it will only be worth it if I get some people on board to chat about things.

    Thanks!

    canesdomain.wordpress.com

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by canes watcher View Post
    Sorry Sutton. McNaughton has a better -- much better -- hockey resume than Doug Paisley. See how that worked out? If you asked him, even Paisley would admit that McNaughton's experience at the provincial, AAA and WHL level trump his.
    Paisley's strength is in NOT meddling constantly, and he should be cheered for it.

    Once you start thinking you're a hockey guy, you become just another board member constantly offering a coach or GM your opinion. That's how it used to be, BMs always pulling coaches, GMs and players in 100 different directions.

    Too many CEOs, not enough guys doing work.
    Well that may be true, but it is all in how you use it. You answered that yourself in that it was a one or two man show with the others as window dressing. A good resume really means nothing. Running the business does. The club has only a couple of employees, hockey and business. They are hired to do the jobs and must be left alone. Again it depends on who does the hiring and when there is limited input from the rest of the board other than to approve a few members selections, there is a higher chance for failure.

  7. #57

    Default Quiet time on posts so throwing a question out there

    Writing on the wall says we're looking for a coach so it's early but who might be out there that is available, fits Anholts team direction, has good developmental skills, works well with the kids and will work for next to nothing until our previous coaches are finally paid off and no longer on the books. Any thoughts?

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by canes watcher View Post
    Sorry Sutton. McNaughton has a better -- much better -- hockey resume than Doug Paisley. See how that worked out? If you asked him, even Paisley would admit that McNaughton's experience at the provincial, AAA and WHL level trump his.
    Paisley's strength is in NOT meddling constantly, and he should be cheered for it.

    Once you start thinking you're a hockey guy, you become just another board member constantly offering a coach or GM your opinion. That's how it used to be, BMs always pulling coaches, GMs and players in 100 different directions.

    Too many CEOs, not enough guys doing work.
    The level of ones hockey knowledge should have absolutely no bearing on who is the president or the vice president of the board etc. The crucial attributes they should have is the knowledge how to manage a mid sized corporation, how to work within the given parameters to achieve success and how to properly designate the duties of other board members. I would go so far as to say the more so called hockey know how these principals have, the worse it is for the team. The board should make all of the business decisions and NONE of the on ice/hockey related choices.

    If I was Anholt, I would have it written into my contract as GM that only 1 or 2 board members are even allowed to discuss hockey matters with him, or any of his staff. Maybe the president and one other designated person. Anyone else who does so should be suspended from the board immediately. Anholt needs to have the unfettered decision making capabilities that will allow him and Maxwell (true hockey people) to mold this gong show into a hockey team.

    Like you said canes watcher; to much interference and meddling in the hockey decisions has ruined this franchise.

    If you disagree with me, I would suggest you try to run any company where there is more than 1 or maybe 2 people who have the power to make the final decisions. It just does not work. Management by committee is what the government does, and we all know how successful they are.


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  9. #59

    Default WONG!

    WHL ANNOUNCES HUMANITARIAN OF THE YEAR FINALISTS.

    Lethbridge's Tyler Wong and Tri-City's Taylor Vickerman are up for a very high honour. This is an awesome award to win or even to be chosen for. Good on you Tyler to be selected as the Eastern Representative. You deserve to win this.
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    Just posted a fairly comprehensive comparison between Anholt and Berehowsky if it interests you. Would love some feedback and opinions.

    https://canesdomain.wordpress.com/20...s-berehowskyi/

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