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    Time to turn the page. Rather than battle it out on last season's thread...

    Here is how I see it

    Top 2 lines
    Bleackley
    Kopeck or Gay
    Musil
    Johnson
    Euro (hopefully)
    Some kid

    3rd line
    Polei
    Pawlenchuk
    Dewit/some kid/Pratt (only bc supposedly he's really good)

    4th line
    Johnson
    Dewit
    Adamson/Pratt/Nell

    D
    Fleury
    Doetzel
    Nogier
    Bobyk
    Mahura
    Strand
    kid/some guy

    G
    Toth
    Burman

    Prediction: Central crown and a meeting with the Wheat Kings in the conf final. 2016 Memorial Cup Champs!!

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    The Rebels should have a better start next season, for no other reason than they won't be starting the season with two relatively green goaltenders. I would be extremely shocked if Nell is even here for the start of training camp, much less skating a regular shift on the fourth line. I think the 'some kid' that you have in the top two lines, will be Polei or Pawlenchuk, or the second import that they select.

    Being the Memorial Cup hosts could also draw attention from an NCAA defector or two. So much is going to change this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SectionNDeserter View Post
    The Rebels should have a better start next season, for no other reason than they won't be starting the season with two relatively green goaltenders. I would be extremely shocked if Nell is even here for the start of training camp, much less skating a regular shift on the fourth line. I think the 'some kid' that you have in the top two lines, will be Polei or Pawlenchuk, or the second import that they select.

    Being the Memorial Cup hosts could also draw attention from an NCAA defector or two. So much is going to change this summer.
    I should clarify that "some kid" would be a player they should acquire either this summer or early next season. While Pawlenchuk or Polei could fit there on the interim, I would like to see those players remain third liners, would really soldify the depth.

    Could be right with Nell. Just looks like one of those players that doesnt fit.

    Regarding the euro, I rmbr Brandon in 2010 drafted two players, and they were one year guys. Maybe they break from the normal euro situation, where teams pick a younger guy that "grows" with the team. Draft 2 this summer, and 2 again next summer haha. Mem cup hosts always seem to have decent euros for whatever reason, so i'll be the optimist!

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    Well Austin Pratt in now in the fold a huge pick up by the Rebs. He was the piece that allowed them to trade Jake Leschyshn (even though getting Gay was not a great pick up) but we did get a first and second round pick in that trade. Lots of nice pieces going forward. Here is a interview with Brent introducing Pratt to the media.
    https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...t=mozilla&tt=b
    Last edited by Red celtic; 04-11-2015 at 01:20 PM.

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    Well its August and I am going to give my pre-camp opening day roster.

    Forwards
    1. Spacek (18) Bleakley (19) Nikolishyn (19)
    2. Musil (18) Johnson (20) Kopek (20)
    3. Polie (19) De Witt (17) Pawlwnchuk (18)
    4. Pederson (18) Pratt (16) Nell (18)
    Johnson (17)

    Defenseman

    1. Fluery (19) Doetzel (20)
    2. Nogier (19) Bobyk (19)
    3. Mahura (17) Strand (18)
    Pouliot (17)

    Goalies

    1.Toth (19) 2. Martin (19)
    Last edited by Red celtic; 08-11-2015 at 11:09 AM.

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    Any reason you predict Spacek in the lineup and not Hickey? Last I heard, neither were exactly guarantees to be on the roster this year. Just wondering if you've heard something different in the last little while.

    I really like the defensive group, especially if Hickey is what they say he is and joins the club. Regarding that, the article I read in the Advocate made it seem as if Sutter is going to try to leverage the WJC team as well as the Flames on Hickey to try to get him to play junior. Still though, unless he's really unhappy in college, I would definitely understand if even the Memorial Cup wasn't enough to make a guy walk away from a university scholarship. If major junior was where his head was at, he could've done that two years ago, so I really have no idea what to expect with regards to him being on the team this year or not and in fact am not crazy optimistic about it.

    Forward group, even with Spacek, still looks pretty thin to me though. I have no idea what to expect from Musil or Pawlenchuk after really underwhelming seasons from both last year. Neither Polei or Nell had real great seasons and given what we've seen of them I do have a difficult time envisioning substantial leaps in their game. Johnson and Kopeck are both very solid, but to me they are third-line guys on a Memorial Cup-caliber team. I am looking forward to seeing what de Wit brings this year, as well as Pratt.

    I think Toth earned the opportunity to prove he can be the guy the Rebels win the Memorial Cup with in net this year, also, so hopefully he is up to the task. I wouldn't relish being in Sutter's position if he has to trade for a high-caliber goaltender midway through the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calcheyup View Post
    Any reason you predict Spacek in the lineup and not Hickey? Last I heard, neither were exactly guarantees to be on the roster this year. Just wondering if you've heard something different in the last little while.
    Sutter had said in an interview that Spacek would be at training camp in three weeks, seems pretty likely he will be in the lineup. Hickey on the other hand sounds like more of a gamble than anything.

    Still though, unless he's really unhappy in college, I would definitely understand if even the Memorial Cup wasn't enough to make a guy walk away from a university scholarship. If major junior was where his head was at, he could've done that two years ago, so I really have no idea what to expect with regards to him being on the team this year or not and in fact am not crazy optimistic about it.
    I wouldn't be crazy optimistic either. The year that Red Deer won the Memorial Cup, they had a powerhouse team, and though they had him on their list, they were unable to lure Dany Heatley to Red Deer. Nothing ventured, nothing gained I guess though.

    I have no idea what to expect from Musil or Pawlenchuk after really underwhelming seasons from both last year.
    If Pawlenchuk doesn't build on his offensive numbers, he is still a hell of a penalty killer/checking line presence. Bartosak and Kuemper aside, the Rebels have really had a string of players that just absolutely give up on the team after they are selected in the NHL draft. Lets hope that this alarming trend starts to decline. It is getting to the point where I am almost hoping that players don't get drafted, so that I don't have to endure watching them float around for the next year or two.

    Neither Polei or Nell had real great seasons and given what we've seen of them I do have a difficult time envisioning substantial leaps in their game.
    Polei is one of the tougher customers in the league, is a force on the boards, and while he gets a lot of scoring chances, just hasn't capitalized on them. I can see him having a breakout year. Nell on the other hand was the exact same player at the end of last season, that he was when he stepped on the ice as rookie, so I do see your point with him.

    Johnson and Kopeck are both very solid, but to me they are third-line guys on a Memorial Cup-caliber team.
    I don't think there is a better defensive forward in the league than Johnson at the moment, he can easily play on the second line on a Memorial Cup team. While not a liability, Kopeck doesn't have elite defensive skill, and could be a victim of the numbers game if a screaming deal is found for an upgrade overage player.

    I am looking forward to seeing what de Wit brings this year, as well as Pratt.
    Been excited to see Pratt in a regular season game since I saw him at his first rookie camp. Seems like both of these guys are going to have to have some patience this season though, as everything points to it being an older team.

    I think Toth earned the opportunity to prove he can be the guy the Rebels win the Memorial Cup with in net this year, also, so hopefully he is up to the task. I wouldn't relish being in Sutter's position if he has to trade for a high-caliber goaltender midway through the season.
    There still needs to be an upgrade of some sort at this position, whether it is Toth splitting time with another solid goaltender, or an elite overage goaltender, they can't go into the season with Toth being backed up by an SJHL backup goaltender. An injury to Toth would be a crappy way exit the Memorial Cup, before it even starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calcheyup View Post
    Any reason you predict Spacek in the lineup and not Hickey? Last I heard, neither were exactly guarantees to be on the roster this year. Just wondering if you've heard something different in the last little while.

    I really like the defensive group, especially if Hickey is what they say he is and joins the club. Regarding that, the article I read in the Advocate made it seem as if Sutter is going to try to leverage the WJC team as well as the Flames on Hickey to try to get him to play junior. Still though, unless he's really unhappy in college, I would definitely understand if even the Memorial Cup wasn't enough to make a guy walk away from a university scholarship. If major junior was where his head was at, he could've done that two years ago, so I really have no idea what to expect with regards to him being on the team this year or not and in fact am not crazy optimistic about it.

    Forward group, even with Spacek, still looks pretty thin to me though. I have no idea what to expect from Musil or Pawlenchuk after really underwhelming seasons from both last year. Neither Polei or Nell had real great seasons and given what we've seen of them I do have a difficult time envisioning substantial leaps in their game. Johnson and Kopeck are both very solid, but to me they are third-line guys on a Memorial Cup-caliber team. I am looking forward to seeing what de Wit brings this year, as well as Pratt.

    I think Toth earned the opportunity to prove he can be the guy the Rebels win the Memorial Cup with in net this year, also, so hopefully he is up to the task. I wouldn't relish being in Sutter's position if he has to trade for a high-caliber goaltender midway through the season.
    I have to agree I think that our back end is going to be very good and would get a lot better if Hickey signs with the Flames and is assigned to the Rebs. Here is a sound bite about the moves that Section N mentioned.
    https://soundcloud.com/troy-gillard/...-august-8-2015

    I have big expectations for Musil he will have break out year this kid is a horse he is going to become the power forward that the Rebs have been coveting. Look to him to score over 30 goals this year. As for Pawlenchuk I think he could be included as trade bait at some point this year I like his skill set but not sure he can rediscover his scoring touch.

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    Reading through Alan Caldwell's Blog on how the overage players are stacking up on each team and there is going to be some very good overage players that are going to have to find homes with new teams this year. Medicine Hat and Kootney are very long in quality 20 year olds. Mr. Kopeck is going to have to show up to camp ready to play and not be taking nights off like last year if he is expecting to stay with this team this year. With a couple of 20 year old quality goaltenders in the mix as well, he could find himself on the outside looking in anyway if the Toth/??? tandem don't look capable of carrying the load. What would Jackson Whistle look like in a Rebels Jersey for a memorial cup starting goaltender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonergroupie View Post
    Reading through Alan Caldwell's Blog on how the overage players are stacking up on each team and there is going to be some very good overage players that are going to have to find homes with new teams this year. Medicine Hat and Kootney are very long in quality 20 year olds. Mr. Kopeck is going to have to show up to camp ready to play and not be taking nights off like last year if he is expecting to stay with this team this year. With a couple of 20 year old quality goaltenders in the mix as well, he could find himself on the outside looking in anyway if the Toth/??? tandem don't look capable of carrying the load. What would Jackson Whistle look like in a Rebels Jersey for a memorial cup starting goaltender?
    I agree there are some decent 20 year olds available up front. Gut tells me KTN the most likely target with their team looking well below avg.

    The 20 year old goalie thing makes zero sense to me. To tie up a 20 year old spot with an avg goalie, which they all are, when you have a half decent goalie already that is a year younger.....not sure the value is there. Whistle had very comparable numbers to Toth last season, and Toth has better numbers in playoffs, albeit with less games played. I think us fans want to see Cam Ward in net this year, the problem is the goaltending in the league right now is just ok, so comparitively we already have quite good goaltending.

    Its easy to say make this better, trade that guy, but you really do have to look at the environment of the league, and i think throughout the lineup the team is very balanced at all positions, when compared to other top end teams. Brandon obv strong everywhere, but them aside the teams depth is as good as any roster i have seen. For the sake of the team going forward, they can probably get away with adding 1-2 more top end forwards or d, and do it without totally &$&@$ thr future, which as a fan i'm most happy with.

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