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    Well another season starts this weekend. We are into year 2 of a rebuild. My expectations are not great for the upcoming season - Paddock believes the team will make the playoffs this year - I think that will be a struggle and will be pleasantly surprised if they do make it.

    We need goal scorers! Apart from Pratt we will struggle to put da puck in the net this season. By my count we have 13 games between now and the end of October. I expect the Pats to be 5 and 8 by Halloween. I was surprised to see that Holmes was not named 1 of the leadership group. Any thoughts on the upcoming season?

    This forum seems really quiet leading into the season.

    Cheers to a new season

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsquared View Post
    Well another season starts this weekend. We are into year 2 of a rebuild. My expectations are not great for the upcoming season - Paddock believes the team will make the playoffs this year - I think that will be a struggle and will be pleasantly surprised if they do make it.

    We need goal scorers! Apart from Pratt we will struggle to put da puck in the net this season. By my count we have 13 games between now and the end of October. I expect the Pats to be 5 and 8 by Halloween. I was surprised to see that Holmes was not named 1 of the leadership group. Any thoughts on the upcoming season?

    This forum seems really quiet leading into the season.

    Cheers to a new season
    Hi there dsquared. You are quite right that it's been quiet but right now there is very little for anyone to be exited about. We weren't able to add a single high end player which leaves us with what we have. The team is similar to last year but they appear to be starting with "five rookies". That pretty much suggests they might be throwing in the flag early. Anyone who doesn't believe that may be a victim of wishful thinking. Pratt appears to be a consistent scorer and will be sought after by contending teams come Jan 10th. What Holmes and Holt provide is hard to know. Unlike Leedahl these guys don't have Steel, Brooks and Wagner to help pad their point totals. Walker, Kolle, Pierce and Krane are out top 19's. Nuff said there. Dubinsky has some skills but he for sure needs to play with some of their top guys so as to boost his confidence and productivity. I hope he ends up with Pratt.

    You are right offence looks to be a problem again this season. You can only score by committee for so long. If they can be 5-8 over their first 13 then they would probably be elated. There is little talent and the veteran presence is far from anything that could be deemed elite. We could be 5-8 after 13 but just as easily be much much worse. After losing Alkimhov who would likely have been a 20 goal scorer this year with us has hurt. After all he had 13 last season on a real bad team and looked to be ready to hit his stride. My expectations dropped and a lot of my buddies feel the same way. Hard to replace that offence especially on an offensively challenged team.

    I am most interested to see if Stanick amounts to anything. Trying to see a budding star in the rookies may be the high point of the season.

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    Dubinsky has some skills but he for sure needs to play with some of their top guys so as to boost his confidence and productivity
    I think he has grown a few inches over last year - that should help his game - or I am remembering things differently again.

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    Warriors 2
    Pats 3

    The Pats got off to a good start to the (regular) season. Austin Pratt scored 20 seconds into the game / season and the Pats earned their first win of the season. The Pats had good 5 on 5 sustained pressure in Moose Jaw's zone in the first period and scored two even strength goals because of it. Each team took one penalty in the first period. The Pats proceeded to take 6 penalties in the 2nd and 3rd periods, which lead to two PP goals for the Warriors. Ty Kolle scored a beauty (2nd of the game) in the third period, when the puck floated out to him in the slot, which he put under the cross bar. It ended up being the game winner. All 3 Pats goals were even strength. Both of Moose Jaw's goals were on the PP. The Pats looked like the better team, especially in the first period. If the Pats stay out of the box, this game isn't nearly as close. Of course, the Warriors are missing Brayden Tracey (and possibly others) to NHL camps, but penalties aside, it's a good start to the season.

    Overall, I think the Pats look pretty good / well rounded for what they have, but they are missing high end talent. They move around on the ice well and are moving the puck pretty good. The lack of discipline appears to be a problem for the Xth year in a row, which will end up costing them games throughout the season if they don't get that taken care of ASAP. Ty Kolle looks improved over last year. He moves around on the ice even better than last year and he's sharper around the net. If he keeps playing the way he is, he should be able to score more than the 16 goals that he scored last year. It seemed like he hit a lot of posts or missed the net a lot last year.

    Daniil Gushchin and Ty Smilanic are two players the Pats are missing, whom could help the team this year and over the next couple of years. Not having Sergei Alkhimov or Daniil Gushchin in the line up every game is definitely going to put more pressure on the rest of the roster. This was a self-inflicted wound. John Paddock traded Alkhimov away and drafted Gushchin, but was unable to convince Gushchin to sign and report. It's a situation, where the Pats probably would have been better off just keeping Alkhimov. Now they have to play the season with only one import.

    Based on what I read / heard, Marcus Taylor looked better than Jake Johnson at camp. How did Johnson make the team over Taylor?

    If the Pats are trying to make the playoffs this year, why do they feel that adding a 16 year old defenseman to an already young defensive core, will help them achieve that goal more than an 18 year old Zonneveld or a good OA defenseman? I"m not exactly surprised that Zonneveld was removed from the team to make room for Johnson as I felt Zonneveld would be the veteran moved if the Pats wanted to go with a 16 year old or add an OA defenseman to the team. My point is that, in theory, if the Pats want to make the playoffs this year, adding an OA or veteran defenseman to a young defensive core would probably increase the odds of the team making the playoffs more than adding a 16 year old (at the expense of an 18 year old to boot) to an already young defensive core.

    If this team can make the playoffs with the players that they have, then good for them. However, if they fall short, then the Pats are going to have to answer some tough questions. Such as, why can't you recruit any high end players (especially American / Import), such as Smilanic / Gushchin? Why did you trade Alkhimov away only to draft a player, which you weren't certain would join the team? Why don't you hire a defensive minded coach to help the defensemen? After all of these years, why can't you get the lack of discipline under control? If the goal is to make the playoffs this year, why are you making an already young defensive core younger instead of adding a good veteran defenseman? Giving a young player another year to develop in Midget AAA or a similar league is not necessarily a bad thing, just ask Brayden Tracey.

    This team needs to find a way to recruit elite players. The fact that there are two projected first round NHL draft picks playing in the USHL this year instead of on the Pats, says it all.
    Last edited by Reider; 09-21-2019 at 02:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reider View Post
    Warriors 2
    Pats 3

    If this team can make the playoffs with the players that they have, then good for them. However, if they fall short, then the Pats are going to have to answer some tough questions. Such as, why can't you recruit any high end players (especially American / Import), such as Smilanic / Gushchin? Why did you trade Alkhimov away only to draft a player, which you weren't certain would join the team? Why don't you hire a defensive minded coach to help the defensemen? After all of these years, why can't you get the lack of discipline under control? If the goal is to make the playoffs this year, why are you making an already young defensive core younger instead of adding a good veteran defenseman? Giving a young player another year to develop in Midget AAA or a similar league is not necessarily a bad thing, just ask Brayden Tracey.

    This team needs to find a way to recruit elite players. The fact that there are two projected first round NHL draft picks playing in the USHL this year instead of on the Pats, says it all.
    Gushchin is getting some real bad advice. His draft stock is already dropping. Word is his agent wants $$$ to get his client here.

    Once Smilanic signed with the Us development team, he was always going to be a two year wait and see.

    Recruiting Johnson (and to some extent Mitchell) is huge. Johnson is very well though of in the US development program. This kid is going to be a real good player.

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    Smilanic was always a long shot. Otherwise why would he have fallen to the 3rd round(the pats probably took him early too)? The fact he came as far as he did was actually surprising. Its looking like he will go college but Im not sure if that's completely decided neither. Any team that gets him will be lucky, and Im still holding out that he decides to come back.

    Gushkhin, I think, is leaning towards the USHL because the prestige of that league is currently above that of the dub despite a lower level of play. He still maintains his college eligibility by staying there, and arguably plays with some more talented line mates if he gets regular top line PP time. The dub is still however better for his development if he has the NHL in his sights. The schedule, the style of play and still some remaining remnants of Canadian hockey. Remember too that he is still a pretty small guy. Perhaps he isn't ready for the grit and size difference in the WHL? Either way, its possible he reports later on. If not, another player next year will take his place(or even one via trade this year)

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